Andalusian Flavor Buleria and Alegrias Lesson

[rubendiaz]

Hello friends:

Here you will find the performance and explanation of the first falsetas of two of the compositions of my new album "Andalusian Flavor":

1) Bulerias "Por Chick" : http://www.rdiaz.org/rdvideo16.html

2) Alegrias "3 de Junio": http://www.rdiaz.org/rdvideo17.html

If you want to listen the whole track in HQ please visit:

http://www.rdiaz.org/recordsincanada.html


I hope you enjoy it!

_____________________________

Ruben Diaz

[Jubilee Valence]

> snip <

I suggest that you re-examine your motives and do NOT get yourself into a situation in where you have NO escape...

You are nearly there....

Heed this advice Ruben Diaz, you will not get it again.

JV

[Jubilee Valence]

btw "professor".....

Are you refering to the andalusian cadence?

Are you saying that PDL "endorses" your blasphemy?

Don't invoke ANYONE'S NAME while you denigrate the art with your hollywood/toronto bs......

It won't fly here, & if necessary I will challenge you everywhere that you try this crap.

Get it?

[rubendiaz]

Respected Sr.I apologize if there were something wrong with me,my intention was never to offend anyone ,I just want to share some of my kwnoledge,with anyone that could be interested on this falsetas,if you doubt of my position,I can not do anything to prove anything to you, first of all I do not know you, and second, I don’t take myself so seriously enough to even try to do that in this context,I think it is not the case,beside the fact that my playing this falsetas properly is enough proof, and the better prove I can offer ,to you ,and or, to the ones that are interested on this buleria ,I just thought that people will like to play this falsetas,and I want to share them,that’s all;I do not need your credibility,for what I play,or for existing or being who I am,that is: a guitar aficionado who is trying to learn to play properly,for ,I am not competing not with you, nor with anyone else,nither challenging anyone on this forum,and I think you are harassing me unnesesarily (63.214.229.62)for I am not finding faults in others,all the opposite , I am still trying to play the guitar well and that’s all,nor I am cheating anyone as you mentioned in your message,I know that perhaps you are a better player than me,so please I beg you to not feel offended from such an unimportant player like myself, if you do not like what I am shearing here, namely this falsetas,please don’t watch it ,I never try to impose this or anything,on anyone I believe this is a free forum ,on free countries to contribute with something about guitar ,if anyone want, and can, and likes to share his, or her kwnoledge about guitar and nothing else than that, any way I remove as per your request the statements that YOU consider a cheating ,and , again I apologize with most respect for you, and for all the kind audience of the forum,about any misunderstanding that I might have cause with the chat here about guitar ,again I state that my only intention was to share some falsetas only and exclusively with the ones that are interested on it .Att:Ruben Diaz.

[Jubilee Valence]

That's all fine & dandy, but I thought you said that you are a professor and that flamenco has been taught through families which, as YOU said, was worthless....

AND that "fortunately" YOUR SCHOOL can teach it RIGHT...


AND that PDL taught YOU all this stuff...

Did HE teach YOU to say THIS???!!!!

PLEASE clarify this

Thank you

[Jubilee Valence]

..... I think you are harassing me unnesesarily (63.214.229.62)for I am not finding faults in others,all the opposite I am still trying to play the guitar well and that’s all,nor I am cheating anyone as you mentioned in your message,.....



well, you sure changed yer' tune professor!

Is that my IP address cleverly disguised as an IP address?

"Harass"?

"Unneccessarilly"?

Tell some more lies, doc.....

Right now you're looking pretty pathetic...

You've got one reply at AG forum...

Do you want me to post your lies over there?

They're your lies, not mine.

Who's harassing who?

Is there something wrong with you?

Really, man?

[oc chuck]

Ruben,

Do you have transcriptions???

[rubendiaz]

thanks Mr.oc chuck:I do not have transcriptions ,generally flamenco is taught from person to person ,there are some transcriptions of Paco that are acurate and others not :wich of his compositions you would like to play or have the transcriptions ---I will deliver a course at the RCM,next days if you are interested perhaps you can attend ,or learn ,in another format :for more information about my teaching activities plaese write to:lessons@rdiaz.org Att:Ruben Diaz.

[deteresa]

JV... Ruben comes on strong, he also got in a scuffle with a few people over at Foro Flamenco, but the guy is an incredible musician and has a lot to offer and teach all of us.

Finally the sleepy GSI forum has a little controversy...

[rubendiaz]

Mr.Andy Colpepper,thanks for your interest in guitar ,in fact ,recently I made a choice to not argue anymore,arguing is for people who have doubts and I dont have so,furthermore this arguing does not make anyone a better player,nor a better human being,so my interest is to only and exclusively contribute with some kwnoledge of guitar of wich you can derive some benefit ,on your playing and that all .Att thanks for your apreciation. Ruben Diaz.

[Pepe Vergara]

I wish I had one photograph next to Paco de Lucia. I do have couple next to Perf, which make me feel good. Imagine if I had Paco try one of my guitars? In one of the pics Paco is listening to a cd probably from doctor Diaz. I agree that the forum started to go back into action mode, thanks to my friend Jubi. Let's keep it coming. Good arguments are always welcome.

[Jubilee Valence]

Don Pepe,get a load of "this....."

.....flamenco was taught in personal “domestic way” and no taken very seriously. Fortunately things have changed...

Now let me see if I got this right. the guy up there is a professor....

Professors are authority figures....

"This" professor says that up until now.....something called "flamenco" was taught via familia.... ¿si', mon?

Now I think that everybody here understands that he means Gypsy teaching Gypsy (and WHOEVER ELSE that wanted to learn...)

But in THE SAME SENTENCE this professor (authority figure....) says that this apparently barbaric and worthless lifestyle was:

".....and no taken very seriously. Fortunately things have changed... "

Ok......"changed" to what???!!!

Didn't he just tell Chuck that flamenco is "still" (esta...) taught one on one?

But now:

"...Fortunately things have changed..."

So let's see if we're on the same page.....

The "old way" is no taken seriously.....

Fortunately things have changed

So...everybody from Ramon Montoya to you and me and Chuck and Andy etc etc was involved in "something" that was "no taken seriously" and whatever "that" was...or is......just doesn't have any validity at all

Until......"now"

Behold!

The professor himself with the back and forth story will this very day lead us away from the lame lazy worthless blah blah blah that brought us the likes of Sabicas and his best friend Carlos Montoya....

...and teach us some PDL stuff (sorry Chuck, ya' get no transcriptions! ;) )

...on....."TV"...

Brothers, you gotta be kiddin' me....

[Jubilee Valence]

JV... Ruben comes on strong, he also got in a scuffle with a few people over at Foro Flamenco, but the guy is an incredible musician and has a lot to offer and teach all of us.

Finally the sleepy GSI forum has a little controversy...

I don't spend any time there but I'm a little surprised....honestly!

If the puros are also catchin' this stuff...well, all I can say is that all the bloody battles have been worth it!

I really must commend our professor for bringing his dream and passion to reality but his methods ie "salesmanship" leaves room for improvement...

..or just outright "cleaning up"!!!

Let me bring everybody's attention to a familiar scenario from nine years ago...

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2000-09-21/news/the-tao-of-esteban/

PLEASE read PAGE 2 carefully!

As well as the rest of the article....

btw, Professor Frank Koonce chairs the Arizona State University music department.

I took the liberty to post the bio of our new esteemed professor on his thread in the off topic forum (why it's still even there is beyond me...HAA!!! Maybe because it IS "off-topic"!!! ;) )

But in the bio, note all the "name-dropping" etc....

..are the tactics beginning to look familiar?

Segovia...

PDL....

Don Pepe, you're from Argentina.

See where "he" studied with your Agentinian compadre?

I just refuse to believe that he learned such tactics regarding the blasphemous flamenco statements from PDL or anybody else....except for maybe Esteban.

[Jubilee Valence]

Ok, I looked at the pics!

Beautiful!

And impressive!!

And looks like a lot of love & fun!

....then I had to see this...

From the Andalusian Guitars site...(the guitar that the professor uses...)

Quote:
"The revolution of Paco de Lucia
The revolution that Paco de Lucia carried out in the flamenco guitar was not only in the way of playing it but in its construction (morphology), woods, sound (timbre) as well as in its proportions.

Originally, the raw material with which flamenco guitars were made was only and exclusively Cypress (sides and back) and it was Paco de Lucía’s idea to make a guitar with the same wood as used for classic guitars (Indian Rosewood) keeping the same measurements and dimensions of the flamenco guitar. This influenced in the aesthetic of the traditional sound (timbre) and, so, it became an instrument with more character and strength."
End Quote.

...anybody see the boo-boo?

no?

I'll highlight it...

"...were made was only and EXCLUSIVELY Cypress..."

I give up folks.... :roll eyes:

No, actually I don't!

Look.....you just do NOT change or "romanticize" (sp?) history

Men, entire familys, were killed in the Spanish Civil War.

Some for nothing else than being intellectuals.

The fanatical government confiscated all of the "maple" to use exclusively (there's that word again...)for the production of rifle stocks to be used EXCLUSIVELY againt the revolt.

Hence...

"cypress"

And

..."sycamore" for the poor Gypsies who remained and could even afford a guitar.
____

Amazing;

......in a real weird way.....

this is beginning to make sense......

[Derry]

Ruben, I appreciate your posting of various offerings in attempt to assist other players,, I'm certainly not a flamenco player but always enjoy the contributions other players make ,,

Derry

[rubendiaz]

The steps to improve in our guitar practice are:

1) To be aware of the obstacle, or bad habit, or whatever you want to call it.
2) Once we find the location and whereabouts of the problem, we proceed to know what the solution is.
3) We decide to solve the mistake and we do it.
4) We check that it may not be happening again, eventually getting help of others who are cleared themselves from the problem or misconception.
5) We continue to create another good habit in replacement of the bad one.
6) We reach a position in which you do not have to bother any more for the thoroughly and already solutioned the problem.

That’s all I can humbly advise you to try, eventually, under proper guidance, every fault can be replaced with the appropriate thing. The most common problem is that we do not even realize that we may have any problem, or obstacle about how to accomplish properly our guitar practice. Some reasons for that are: 1) that we don’t want to ask for help, perhaps because one does not want to appear to the eyes of himself or others as ignorant of the particular question we may be in need for further information or knowledge or because we want to keep our Guruship on guitar. 2)Maybe we really don’t want to solution the problem, maybe we actually like the problem having become so used to it. 3) To convince oneself that “this is MY way to play”, or “life is like this”,or “anyway, many people is committing the same mistake if it is even a mistake, actually maybe is not a mistake it is a virtue that many people is praising me for that”, that’s it, that I like, or “this is the way that follows on how to play and practice stuff in the next generation”, the so called after Paco generation, or “Paco is old fashion, in Spain, there are many others as good as he himself, etc.”, “why should I accept a teacher?, I can do alone, I am myself the gratest authority on guitar, and I don’t need anyone else”,or “internet will solution the problem” etc.
Of course help by the association and approval of other people who are in our very same situation (which is the most common reason I have seen in my 25 years of experience).

So as you see, there are many details to become aware of, of course I clarify that I am not saying this is the absolute truth and that’s all, rather I am talking about my own personal experience with the guitar, so perhaps it’s only valid for me, but if any of these advices can help you to become a better player somehow or other, then I will be happy that I helped in some way to your guitarristic progress. I admit that, maybe, I am old fashioned because, in my time (which is before the internet era), when I learned what I learned, the current thing was to accept a teacher. And I don’t mean formally but really AT HEART, and follow his line without doubts. Now people generally do not want to accept or follow a teacher like that anymore. Nowadays things have changed a lot, in part due to internet alienation, or should we better say the cool inventions of technology?... People have accepted internet as their teacher and not any person or artist, and they consider and regard any and every opinion as same valid and true, like “we all have the same rights” etc. Many arguments they put forward in the name of freedom, equality etc. All these arguments, in my humble opinion, are not good in the path of learning but just to avoid the responsibility, respect, and discipline that goes along with accepting SERIOUSLY a teacher and follow what he says, and, therefore, finally get the desired results.

To learn guitar properly again, in my opinion, one HAVE to accept a particular teacher and line or style. But what I see nowadays is that, far away from accepting a teacher, people want to be their own teacher or they are even against the philosophy of accepting a teacher or line, they have no respect for that, so, they just do jokes about these people, others write or say malicious remarks to satanize the people like me, who are free from doubts and therefore are fully determined to accept a teacher, a line, and to honourably represent that line or teacher. For that kind of people this has no value at all. They just want to follow a mixture of 2 million different views, opinions, speculations and advices, as if everyone would have the same authority or kwnoledge, and, of course, they end up reaching nowhere on the guitar themselves, but they don’t mind to remain in ignorance provided there is granted to them the company, friendship, fellowship and consent of many people like them, with the same vague ideas and pseudo-convictions or misconceptions about guitar, art and composition etc.

In other words people with no identity, with no PERSONAL OPINION OR CONVICTION on any subject, they are all brain washed, so, they think that they know, when they actually not. That’s why it is next to impossible to even try to enlighten or help them, they don’t think that they are wrong or anything, nor do they even dream to consider the possibility that they could be wrong, so, they continue like this for years and years. I mean that people now a days is generally SUPERFICIAL and not deep, and that’s why they like to so-called learn guitar like that namely in emptiness and remainig empy of course. They like the light and democratic way of learning guitar, wanderig and re-wandering with no guide, nor a really PERSONAL OPINION about whatever subject on the guitar you want to mention, from tecnique to composition etc.

As far as for me is concerned ,I don’t accept their easy and cheap philosophy, and, therefore in my life I didn’t do that, because, for me, learning guitar is like flying and airplane. Imagine what would happened if I try to learn to pilot and airplane on my own, or by getting some data I read in the internet as well as opinions of people that are not a pilots themselves but people that offer their cheap advices, and pose themselves as an experienced pilots; what would happen if I do not learn to pilot the airplane from a person that really is a teacher-pilot himself and knows how to fly?... Later, when I will know how to pilot, then I can fly on my own and not before that. That’s how I ,Ruben Diaz see things, that is what I can advise you to improve your practice on the guitar for now, I do it with all my heart and with the only intention to help you all, as I was helped with the precious gift of this advices from my teachers and generous preceptors on the path of the guitar and composition. The more you are inspired to follow, the more you will see the results. Please, at least meditate scrutinizing about what I just said and good luck. I encourage you and everyone that is reading this to try to get serious and determined into this adventure that is TO LEARN GUITAR.
Best regards.
Ruben Diaz.

[Great Googly Moogly]

3) To convince oneself that “this is MY way to play”, or “life is like this”,or “anyway, many people is committing the same mistake if it is even a mistake, actually maybe is not a mistake it is a virtue that many people is praising me for that . . .”Nice post, Ruben. The funny thing is, is that I had a teacher who had held the same point of view that you stated here above when it came to a "mistake" in my technique. (In other words, he kept telling me that what I was doing was fine, even though I knew this was not the case. The position he held on the matter was almost word verbatim of how you stated it in the above example.) I decided to step away from my lessons with him in order to commit myself to the grueling effort of correcting my technique, without the benefit of a teacher. It is ironic, no?

[rubendiaz]

Maestro Brian Hayes:Thanks for your kind message,what you are saying is most interesting,and you have a great insight into guitar for,only serious people like yourself,is willing to localize,accept ,and then eliminate defects in our playing,this advices that Paco,and other teachers gave me,are not politics ,but just for OUR own benefit,and this nuances are very important in order to progress in our guitar practice,one should be carefull about who does one accept as authoritative first,and once one find the proper guidance then persue the goal.thank you for your nice comments.regards,Att Ruben Diaz.

[Jubilee Valence]

Hey maestro... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

uhhh...I think our boy here just copp'd to havin' a ghostwriter... on the other thread.....

The funny thing is >>------> Yer' gettin' as big a kick out'ta this as everybody else!!!!!

It's times like this when...

"I LOVE THIS TOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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pssst!! Bri'!!! Give our love to Juan!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mrgreen:
-me

[Great Googly Moogly]

Hey maestro...

uhhh...I think our boy here just copp'd to havin' a ghostwriter... on the other thread.....

The funny thing is >>------> Yer' gettin' as big a kick out'ta this as everybody else!!!!!

It's times like this when...

"I LOVE THIS TOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
____

pssst!! Bri'!!! Give our love to Juan!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-meGood to heard from you, man!! HA! This does remind me of old times, now! (That last time, when everybody was all gathering together for a big group hug, it seemed a little much to me but as it turned out, it never lasted!)

You no longer have a MySpace, I noticed?

Juan is currently out in CA. He left last week and will be gone for about five weeks. He's doing well!

[JoeAlders]

Common Brian, Jubilee…….. Ruben is posting a lot of interesting stuff!
Please try not to fillet him and frighten him off to contribute further to our forum.

Brian, give MAESTRO Juan my greetings!!!

Joe.

[Great Googly Moogly]

Brian, give MAESTRO Juan my greetings!!!Will do! Glad to see you're still around, Joe!

Common Brian, Jubilee…….. Ruben is posting a lot of interesting stuff!
Please try not to fillet him and frighten him off to contribute further to our forum.I thought so too but that business of him doing multiple postings, and right after Dave had asked him not to, at that, I thought was very bad.

[Jubilee Valence]

Common Brian, Jubilee…….. Ruben is posting a lot of interesting stuff!
Please try not to fillet him and frighten him off to contribute further to our forum.

Brian, give MAESTRO Juan my greetings!!!

Joe.

Like always Joe, eveything that you say is true!!

Don't worry about him running off....he is a great teacher etc

I think we have a language barrier situation and perhaps you can help him address his true concerns without sounding so negative...

You are always able to translate our American terminology, so maybe you can help the professor communicate in a positive manner so that we may all benefit from his good nature...

Thanks, brother!!!
-me
:mrgreen:

[Jubilee Valence]

bump....

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

[JoeAlders]

Like always Joe, eveything that you say is true!!

Don't worry about him running off....he is a great teacher etc

I think we have a language barrier situation and perhaps you can help him address his true concerns without sounding so negative...

You are always able to translate our American terminology, so maybe you can help the professor communicate in a positive manner so that we may all benefit from his good nature...

Thanks, brother!!!
-me
:mrgreen:

Jubilee,

I feel very flattered by your comment…….

but...,

'bump' ........???

Joe

[Sandra]

Joe, in a forum such as this, when you make a new post it "bumps" the thread up to the top of the list, so sometimes people just post the word "bump" when they have nothing to say but want the thread to go to the top.

Jubi said he wants Faya to see these threads so he's bumping them. He could have just sent Faya a PM with a link to all the threads rubendiaz had started.

http://www.guitarsalon.com/forums/search.php?searchid=181919

[JoeAlders]

Sandra,

Thanks for the explanation!

Joe.

[Y-2-H]

Why the heck are people reviving all of this idiot’s posts? You really need to get a life! By the way sometimes I really wonder what’s in that cigarette :rolleyes:

[ssante]

Why the heck are people reviving all of this idiot’s posts? You really need to get a life! By the way sometimes I really wonder what’s in that cigarette :rolleyes:

Maybe you should look into LAW ENFORCEMENT. :p

[Great Googly Moogly]

Why the heck are people reviving all of this idiot’s posts? You really need to get a life! By the way sometimes I really wonder what’s in that cigarette :rolleyes:LOL! OMG, that was funny! :)

(It's not my intention to laugh at Jubi's expense. I'm sure he will get a big chuckle out of it as well!)

[Great Googly Moogly]

Maybe you should look into LAW ENFORCEMENT. :pGood call! :)

[Y-2-H]

LOL! OMG, that was funny! :)

(It's not my intention to laugh at Jubi's expense. I'm sure he will get a big chuckle out of it as well!)
I’m just kidding really I don’t mean this literally... Well, apart from the ‘‘get a life’’ part :D..Again just kidding ;)