Vicente Amigo's Reyes [Archive] - Guitar Salon International Forums

ssante

08-22-2009, 07:53 AM

For fans of Vicente and Reyes guitars here is a video. Vicente with his Reyes (con bracelet) and I assume that is his son with him.

Of course there is the distinct possibility that the recording may have been made with another guitar. He owns a few DeVoes and I'm sure some others, as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQhJMIOnhuU

Yes this is a wonderful new video from Vincente's latest release. I have researched through his interviews and I believe the boy in the video is his son Marcos. Here is a link to my favorite Vincente video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCM_bbxUaDQ

IMHO: Vincente has a Poets heart.

BTW: He uses a Dunlop Toggle Capo a great deal in his videos as do many other Flamencos these days.

NGiorgio

08-22-2009, 08:09 AM

I had not seen that one before. Quite a performance. He is terrific.

What really impresses me about Vicente, PdL, Tomatito, Gerardo and so many others is their compositional skills. They are all so creative. Not only are they great technicians, they are terrific composers as well.

at_leo_87

08-22-2009, 08:51 AM

gotta love his tone.

NGiorgio

08-22-2009, 09:11 AM

gotta love his tone.

Interesting point. Many people think it is the guitar which sounds so good. Although the instrument is an important factor, it is the player who brings out the best in each guitar. If you listen to very accomplished flamenco players, they sound very much the same regardless of which guitar they are using. I am referring to tone.

Vicente and Tomatito seem to prefer their Reyes guitars for public performance and even though their styles are somewhat different, the tone that they both produce from those guitars are similar. At least, to my ears they are.

Any opinions?

Tom Blackshear

08-22-2009, 09:18 AM

isn't this the Reyes too?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_qzLH3FgxM&feature=related

Yes, this is his 1988 Reyes, which I have a close copy of with a 1987 plan. The 2003 I drew a plan with has a little rounder sound; more bell like in the trebles but this is a good model that Vicente is playing. He knows how to bend the notes quite well, which makes it seem that the guitar is sounding that way by itself. Also, my understanding is that he has quite a sound system with all of the sound equipment they use. But nonetheless, a good guitar.

NGiorgio

08-22-2009, 09:58 AM

ssante

08-22-2009, 02:25 PM

ssante

08-22-2009, 02:28 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mister Lovaguitara
isn't this the Reyes too?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_qzL...eature=related

Vicente has a different bracelet on this one. I think the gold one is the alzapua bracelet and the leather is the rasgueo bracelet.;-)

Absolutely. :D

I wonder who started the trend. I have seen alot of utube Flamenco players wearing bracelets on the rasqueo hand. No kidding.

ssante

08-22-2009, 02:29 PM

Interesting point. Many people think it is the guitar which sounds so good. Although the instrument is an important factor, it is the player who brings out the best in each guitar. If you listen to very accomplished flamenco players, they sound very much the same regardless of which guitar they are using. I am referring to tone.

Vicente and Tomatito seem to prefer their Reyes guitars for public performance and even though their styles are somewhat different, the tone that they both produce from those guitars are similar. At least, to my ears they are.

Any opinions?

Tone is in the fingers first.

Y-2-H

08-22-2009, 03:50 PM

For fans of Vicente and Reyes guitars here is a video. Vicente with his Reyes (con bracelet) and I assume that is his son with him.

Of course there is the distinct possibility that the recording may have been made with another guitar. He owns a few DeVoes and I'm sure some others, as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQhJMIOnhuU

I’m not sure about something: are you posting the video because it is nice and saying oh by the way this guitar is a Reyes or are you posting it because it’s a Reyes? Because all his videos are made with Reyes nothing special there :confused:

Y-2-H

08-22-2009, 03:52 PM

isn't this the Reyes too?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_qzLH3FgxM&feature=related
Yup! That’s the exact same Reyes that he has been using in every video since 1993!
He’s switching to Friederich as I heard by the way.

Y-2-H

08-22-2009, 03:57 PM

Tone is in the fingers first.

Well fingers are very important but let’s face it! Listen to Paco de Lucía and Vicente Amigo. They sound very different because Paco is using an Hermanos. When he used a Carrillo he sounded a lot more like Amigo. Tomatito and Amigo sound alike coz they’re both using a Reyes while Juan Martín sounds a lot like Paco coz he’s using an Hermanos too.

Another example, listen to John Williams’ Fleta and Smallman recordings they’re quite different.

I know the player is an important factor because Martín doesn’t sound that close to Paco and Williams didn’t sound exactly like Segovia when both on Fletas. But guitar is the FIRST factor if you wanna be realistic!

at_leo_87

08-22-2009, 04:59 PM

Tomatito and Amigo sound alike coz they’re both using a Reyes

well, actually, imo, i think the opposite. it goes to show how two different people playing guitars of the same maker can sound different.

vicente has a really unique tone. but if there was ever a parallel in terms of tone, i would say it'd be between vicente and manolo sanlucar.

at_leo_87

08-22-2009, 05:01 PM

Vicente and Tomatito seem to prefer their Reyes guitars for public performance and even though their styles are somewhat different, the tone that they both produce from those guitars are similar. At least, to my ears they are.

Any opinions?

am i the only one? lol. i think, in terms of tone, they sound very different! i'll have to listen to tomatito tonight, i've been on a vicente amigo binge.

Y-2-H

08-22-2009, 05:49 PM

am i the only one? lol. i think, in terms of tone, they sound very different! i'll have to listen to tomatito tonight, i've been on a vicente amigo binge.
Sorry you are :D
They sound a lot alike. Also Sanlúcar sounds like Amigo but not as much as Tomatito. Sanlúcar sounds more like Paco de Lucía on a Carrillo.

Sandra

08-22-2009, 11:19 PM

Maybe we could convince Dave Tate that GSI should carry these magic bracelets. :p

sanderdude

08-23-2009, 06:06 AM

NGiorgio

08-23-2009, 10:56 AM

The trend is actually very old gypsy sleazery like a gold front tooth, not intended to be derogatory or racist, I think it is charming as are the cheapo clear or white plastic spanish capos you see used by the old timers, even cubic zircons on the ends of the pegs.

Are you saying that wearing a bracelet of leather or silver or gold is sleazy? You can't be serious.

The white cejillas were/are made from bone, not plastic, and I don't find them to be sleazy either ........

Sandra

08-23-2009, 07:11 PM

Are you saying that wearing a bracelet of leather or silver or gold is sleazy? You can't be serious.
Actually, I didn't take it that way at all. Perhaps you misunderstood his intent. Perhaps his wording was unfortunate, I saw it more like recognizing a stereotype which likely has some truth behind it, like how many black rappers go for gold chains or other "bling."

ssante

08-28-2009, 01:55 PM

Maybe we could convince Dave Tate that GSI should carry these magic bracelets. :p

For anyone has watched the movie: MASK with Jim Carrey. Perhaps there is a bracelet in antiquity that if worn on the Rasqueado hand enables one to acquire the right hand skills of PDL or Sabicas. :p

tanolonco

08-28-2009, 03:31 PM

ssante: sabicas as far as i know did not wear a braclet. he did wear a big honkin' ring on his hand (the right hand as i recall). maybe a magic ring will do the trick.

ssante

08-28-2009, 07:21 PM

ssante: sabicas as far as i know did not wear a braclet. he did wear a big honkin' ring on his hand (the right hand as i recall). maybe a magic ring will do the trick.

It was quite a large ring as I recall. Maybe a magic ring will work. Oh wait, Frodo has the Ring! :p

Y-2-H

08-31-2009, 11:51 AM

I really do believe Amigo’s is the best Reyes. Not sure if maybe it’s pretty much close to the others and it’s Amigo who’s making it sound so unbelievable!

ssante

08-31-2009, 12:28 PM

... and it’s Amigo who’s making it sound so unbelievable!

Ditto!!!

Tom Blackshear

09-06-2009, 02:12 PM

ssante: sabicas as far as i know did not wear a braclet. he did wear a big honkin' ring on his hand (the right hand as i recall). maybe a magic ring will do the trick.

Sabicas generally worn a big three carat diamond ring on his left hand and once in awhile he would go hock it and go to the race track; he loved horse racing, but always found a way to buy it back. He would charge a certain amount of money in cash for his recording in the studio, usaully a 1000 dollars, as he didn't trust the music companies with owing it to him. His last salary that I know of, was $6,000 for a concert

schramm_guitars

09-07-2009, 07:15 AM

>>>Sanlúcar sounds like Amigo <<<

....who do you think was Amigo's teacher? What you mean is Vicente Amigo sounds like his teacher Manolo Sanlucar.

schramm_guitars

09-07-2009, 07:36 AM

>>>BTW: He uses a Dunlop Toggle Capo a great deal in his videos as do many other Flamencos these days.<<<

That is an old trend. They are the best, I've been using mine for nearly 25 years. So have most of the flamenco players I know. There is a reason they have the best reputation for nylon string capos. I use it on my electric guitars too. They don't get in the way as do those stupid capos with the levers that stick out. Those are the worst. The clamp on capos are well-known for putting dings in the back of the neck.

Jubilee Valence

09-07-2009, 08:26 AM

The trend is actually very old gypsy sleazery like a gold front tooth, not intended to be derogatory or racist, I think it is charming as are the cheapo clear or white plastic spanish capos you see used by the old timers, even cubic zircons on the ends of the pegs.

Wel'p, these are amomg the best that money can buy....
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e312/kookystrat/21stCenturyCejillas.jpg

And without "this"....
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e312/kookystrat/Christopher.jpg

"this" is pure insanity....
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e312/kookystrat/CatchingTheWave.jpg

Jubidubidubiduuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c27/jubiduuu123/Jubilee112/untitled.jpg
ps...real surfers don't say d**e.....

schramm_guitars

09-07-2009, 09:29 AM

I have a bunch of those too. They suck. The $5 dunlop is better. You don't have a tuning peg in the way as you do with the wooden capos.

Jubilee Valence

09-07-2009, 12:13 PM

...you mean you got a bunch'a suck'ee cejillas?

with tuning pegs?!

jeeezzz...mine only comes in: xxxxxx

so ya' gotta be in tune before ya' tune the peg...

errr, uhhh...you need to tune the peg.....no....

aaarrrghhhhh!!!!????
:mrgreen:

at_leo_87

09-08-2009, 12:22 AM

what sucks about those dunlop capos is that you cant make fine adjustments. my guitar's neck thickness is in between the 2nd and 3rd notch. 3 is too tight, 2 is too loose.

NGiorgio

09-08-2009, 04:57 AM

what sucks about those dunlop capos is that you cant make fine adjustments. my guitar's neck thickness is in between the 2nd and 3rd notch. 3 is too tight, 2 is too loose.

Dunlop makes a capo which has an adjustable strap. It is called "adjust-o-
strap" and is model 14F. It might help your problem.:-)

at_leo_87

09-08-2009, 07:06 AM

yup, i already bought it (well, it's coming for free) :p
i've seen your capos on ebay. very nice work!

NGiorgio

09-08-2009, 08:51 AM

yup, i already bought it (well, it's coming for free) :p
i've seen your capos on ebay. very nice work!

The adjustable Dunlop will help your situation but to solve it, you will need a cejilla ;-)

I appreciate the kind words, thanks.

at_leo_87

09-08-2009, 08:59 AM

i made a few cejillas of my own but compared to yours, they're ugly as sin. how long have you been making cejillas? how'd you get into it?

NGiorgio

09-08-2009, 11:24 AM

i made a few cejillas of my own but compared to yours, they're ugly as sin. how long have you been making cejillas? how'd you get into it?

I started making cejillas about 6-7 years ago. It was suggested to me by forum member Keith (Tanolonco) who also make cejillas.

Made a few for myself and gave a few away to friends. As they started to grow in numbers, my wife suggested that I try to sell some on Ebay. Been doing that for a year or so. PM me if you would like more details. :-)

Here are some beauties by Luthier Daniel Turner.

http://www.spanishguitarcapos.com/

at_leo_87

09-08-2009, 03:48 PM

those ones, although they're really pretty, look a bit big to me. i like ones that look like this guy here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Flamenco-Classical-Guitar-Cejilla-capo-Handmade-Ebony_W0QQitemZ200380217166QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuit ar?hash=item2ea797774e&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14

Y-2-H

09-11-2009, 06:34 PM

http://www.spanishguitarcapos.com/
MAN! Thank you for that website!! It’s unbelievable: It’s not expensive, it has a huge list of wood options and it looks unique + it looks like it really doesn’t let any buzz!!!
Merci

NGiorgio

09-12-2009, 09:06 AM

MAN! Thank you for that website!! It’s unbelievable: It’s not expensive, it has a huge list of wood options and it looks unique + it looks like it really doesn’t let any buzz!!!
Merci

Yes, they are beautiful cejillas. As far as buzz, for $85.00 they certainly should not buzz. Actually, a good cejilla will not allow fret buzz. The key is in the fit of the peg, allowing for easy tightening, so there is adequate pressure to the strings.

I use a black rubber pad on the bottom of my cejillas which also allows for a much firmer grip on the strings, as opposed to the traditional leather bottom.

Here is a link to some of my cejillas.;-)

http://ostriemusicsupplies.com/cejillas.htm

Jubilee Valence

09-12-2009, 11:45 AM

yeah, i seen that price too....

sheeeeshhh!!!!!

Y-2-H you can be confident that a good cejilla will not "buzz"...;)

Y-2-H

09-12-2009, 03:50 PM

yeah, i seen that price too....

sheeeeshhh!!!!!

Y-2-H you can be confident that a good cejilla will not "buzz"...;)

I am currently using the GSI cejilla which does buzz when you hit the strings as hard as you can you know.

Jubilee Valence

09-12-2009, 05:07 PM

You mean like this one?

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c27/jubiduuu123/Jubilee112/5130260d13192fc11e6d3821766cee22-12.jpg

Ok, let's go through the "checklist"

-Peg check

-Wood body check

-Pad check

-Cord check

-Strap check

Ok, if everything's there & in good shape, then we move on to the "placement"

Place the (A) cejilla behind the fret (try fret 3 for a default) & tighten it down & check for "buzz" or "mute"

If either occur then loosen it up slightly & move incrementally & re-tighten until you've found the "right spot"

Note: the "right spot" will vary per instrument (and even per "fret") because of all the factors that make each instrument "unique"
(I've read where one guy put's them "atop" the fret!?)

If this primary default check does NOT correct buzzing or muting issues (the latter is unlikely) then proceed with secondary default check

Secondary default check requires that you put the cejilla aside and install another working device (B) either a capo or cejilla that's been proven on another instrument onto your guitar while at the same time perform primary default check using your GSI cejilla on the instrument that you just took the proven working capo off of.

If (A) works on the other guitar and (B) works on yours, re-perform primary default check on your guitar until you find the right spot.

If (A) works on neither, then both set-ups are borderline "low" and/or there may be a "kink" in the neck(s) or low tension strings may be contributing

Needless to say the second instrument should have similar strings & set-up....

Let us know.
(If you are in a "remote" area with limited access to available secondary device & instrument, congrats! You've just saved a big step & I've wasted typing but no worries, just re-perform the primary default check until you find the sweet spot! ;) )

at_leo_87

09-12-2009, 06:56 PM

Jubilee Valence

09-12-2009, 10:30 PM

i bet even cheap cejillas dont buzz if used correctly. i made a really ghetto one and it works just as well as any capo and i barely have to tighten the peg.

along with all that jubi said, if it buzzes only on the bass side, just push down on the peg a little to readjust it's position. if it now buzzes on the treble side, tighten it a tad.

i find it best to use the cejilla with the side with the string attached to the body on the bass side.

using them should be easy. the thing i don't like about them is when they're too big and get in the way.

Sometimes I seem to give too much information!? :mrgreen:

But to be brutally accurate, this abbreviated synopsis above is much more to the point!!!

Thanks!

And to any future readers, he/she probably just has that little "bump" to address in order to get it "just right" as they tend to "settle in" with experience.....hmnn?
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

at_leo_87

09-13-2009, 01:21 AM

Sometimes I seem to give too much information!? :mrgreen:

there is no such thing as too much information! you made a very good unofficial cejilla troubleshooting guide.

and in my post above, i meant push down on the cejilla body not the peg. sometimes one side will tighten more quickly than the other, especially if you have a grippy material to cover the string and protect the neck, so you just push down on the loose side to even it out.

how many cejillas do you have jubi?

all this cejilla talk makes me want to make another one. has anyone ever tried using a 1/4 size violin peg?

Jubilee Valence

09-13-2009, 08:24 AM

at leo 87, I'm on my second one from 21st Century Cejillas (the first got "lost" in all the confusion of the past 3 years!)

Here's the newest one on a "borrowed" negra:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c27/jubiduuu123/cam_data_photo034.jpg
______

Hey Nick!! What's the width on this one??!!

(it looks like it would fit perfect on the 56mm Pepe!)

http://i.ebayimg.com/04/!BZszi5w!mk~$(KGrHgoOKk!EjlLm(M-TBKn+T38kq!~~_35.JPG
____

Also: at leo 87, some of the older guys like me (I'm 53) will recognize the intentional humor involved in my tutorial above. The idea comes from "old school cars" troubleshooting: for example, when you "ran out of gas" and after then adding gas & it mysteriously wont start......then you perform the primary ignition check...
(kind of a dinosaur joke)

But the principals still apply!
(every time ;) )

NGiorgio

09-13-2009, 08:38 AM

all this cejilla talk makes me want to make another one. has anyone ever tried using a 1/4 size violin peg?

I make some cejillas with a 1/4 size peg. They are an extremely low profile, around 3/8ths of an inch high, and do not inhibit left hand movement as much as a standard size.

Boys and girls, if your cejilla is attached to your guitar properly and there is buzzing on one or more of the bass strings, it is usually caused by one problem. The peg. If the peg is not a good fit and doesn't turn smoothly, it cannot be tightened enough to put the proper pressure on the strings.

If that is the case with your cejilla, it is easily fixed with a little bit of light sanding on the peg. Just a little, if you take too much off the peg will be too loose. Another trick is to put some graphite on the peg which will make it turn smoother. Just a bit on the tip of the peg. A pencil will work great for this. Just rub the tip of the pencil on the peg. It will lubricate the peg and it will fit much better.

Trouble with the mass produced cejillas is that the pegs are not properly fitted. They just drill a hole in the cejilla and shove the peg in, (which is usually too high and leads to the left hand obstruction problem) and do not take the time to adjust the peg for smooth operation. That's one of the reasons I started to make them. The cejillas which I bought, just did not work very well.:-)

When trying to make your own, a couple of tips. A rubber pad on bottom of cejilla grips far better than a thin piece of leather. Drill the 1/16th hole in the peg above the collar so that you can get the peg low in the cejilla body. Most importanty, take a lot of time to fit the peg.

It's not all that hard to make a cejilla, but to make that works well, is a different story.;-)

NGiorgio

09-13-2009, 08:52 AM

JV,

The width of that one is only 62mm.

When I make a custom order, I need to know the width of fingerboard at the highest fret which you would place the cejilla. That's how the width should be determined.

I remember the ignition check, as well as dwell meters and feeler guages and timing lights and the smell of Sunoco 260. I spent much of my youth at local drag strips. Also did my share of street racing. Good days back then, for sure.;-)

Jubilee Valence

09-13-2009, 09:01 AM

hmmnnn....I caught that before but just shrugged it off....

But now I'm goin' crazy with this "left hand issue" regarding the 'peg'..

I play maniacally for the most part and I can't ever remember cussin' my cejilla!!??

I mean the cejilla itself boosts performance in a manner of speaking and I just can't recall it ever "being in the way"...because...my left hand flies all over forward of the placement...
(but never "at" or "behind"!?)

I'm clueless on this one!?
(as usual...)
:mrgreen:

ps....ooops! "overtightening" is probably not requisite I'll assume..;)

Jubilee Valence

09-13-2009, 09:06 AM

JV,

I remember the ignition check, as well as dwell meters and feeler guages and timing lights and the smell of Sunoco 260. I spent much of my youth at local drag strips. Also did my share of street racing. Good days back then, for sure.;-)

Aha!!!

Well, I used the *"NEW" matchbook cover=327 Chevy dwell....huh?? huh???!!!
:mrgreen:

*slides perfectly...same as the graphite trick!! ;)
(fully open points/newer points cam etc..)

at_leo_87

09-13-2009, 09:29 AM

When trying to make your own, a couple of tips. A rubber pad on bottom of cejilla grips far better than a thin piece of leather. Drill the 1/16th hole in the peg above the collar so that you can get the peg low in the cejilla body. Most importanty, take a lot of time to fit the peg.

cool! thanks! where can i get a rubber pad though? last time, i used that soft padding thing you put on furniture feet so it doesn't scratch the floor.

hey jubi,
here's an example of how capos get in my way. check out the chord at the sextuplet part and the chord after. after playing the thumb part at 152 bpm, it's pretty hard to fit my fingers into those chords and not hit the capo. i hit it on the slur from c to a on the fifth string too.
248

and chords like this too:

-----
--1--
--1--
--0--
--1--
--1--

NGiorgio

09-13-2009, 09:53 AM

Aha!!!

Well, I used the *"NEW" matchbook cover=327 Chevy dwell....huh?? huh???!!!
:mrgreen:

*slides perfectly...same as the graphite trick!! ;)
(fully open points/newer points cam etc..)

Yeah, that would work in a pinch, never tried it though. I did however, manually adjust the distributor without a timing light on more than a few occasions. It was a "feel" type of thing and being a musician, I always had a good "feel" ;-)

NGiorgio

09-13-2009, 10:06 AM

cool! thanks! where can i get a rubber pad though? last time, i used that soft padding thing you put on furniture feet so it doesn't scratch the floor.

hey jubi,
here's an example of how capos get in my way. check out the chord at the sextuplet part and the chord after. after playing the thumb part at 152 bpm, it's pretty hard to fit my fingers into those chords and not hit the capo. i hit it on the slur from c to a on the fifth string too.
248

and chords like this too:

-----
--1--
--1--
--0--
--1--
--1--

The black rubber that I use is neoprene and is sold in minimum size of 12"x12" sheets. The red rubber which Keith uses (like on JV's cejilla, above) is sold in most hardware stores as gasket material and is in a smaller size, I think 8"x8" and is not very expensive. If you can't find any, I have some that I can send to you as I do not use the red stuff anymore.

On the chord that you illustrated, I will assume that you are using the index for the partial barre on 6 and 5, and 2 and 3 fingers for the 3 and 2 string. Try using the 2nd finger for the barre and 3rd and 4th for the G# and C notes. That fingering will comfortably clear the cejilla.

Using a cejilla takes a bit of getting used to. Changing up some fingerings or altering the left hand grips a little. Movement of LH thumb to a slightly lower position at the back of the neck etc. It is a aquired taste.;-)

Jubilee Valence

09-13-2009, 01:23 PM

This one's more fun than a barrel of monkeys!!!! :mrgreen:

Yeah, I'll remain clueless cuz' as most folks know--"I don't read..."

I'll try real hard though & see if I can't get that cejilla to get in my way...lol

Regarding pt 2....

Musicians RULE in the shop!
(I think Frank Marino actually almost lost a finger saving a rare block from crashing to the floor one day!?)

Takes me back to when a buddy was scratching his head because he couldn't get the timing light reading to jive right due to end of swing radius on top of his distributer....so I simply stuck it back in there with a better swing radius, found TDC & rewired it per firing order....I found the "sweet spot" where it started & killed on first hit & "Viola!!"--he hooked up his light to shoot a perfect "bingo!"

jeeezz....look at us now....:lol:

computers, error codes.....throttle position sensing thingamajigs....:lol:
EDIT: as I recall now that re-stab was a separate frustrated buddy....on the one up there I just re-wired it "up one" & then had room to swing it...

nickc

09-13-2009, 01:44 PM

I never use a cejilla. I like the sound of the full scale-length of the guitar, but, if I were ever to purchase a cejilla, I would buy one of NGiorgio's. I think they're really beautiful. I think they would look great even in my guitar drawer, where I keep my strings, tuner and the cut-off socks that I pull over my right arm when I play in this Florida heat, so my sweat won't mar the beautiful French polish of my guitar.

NGiorgio

09-13-2009, 01:58 PM

Musicians RULE in the shop!
(I think Frank Marino actually almost lost a finger saving a rare block from crashing to the floor one day!?)

He shoulda used his foot.;-)

JV

Many moons ago, I pulled the distributor out of my '64 Corvette and brought it to a local speed shop to have a performance curve set up on it. When I got it back, I realized I had forgotten to mark it, so it would drop back in to the right spot ha ha. So I just guessed. Luckily it was a good guess and it fired right up and I did set the timing with a light, this time.

Yeah, computer controlled engines are a lot more difficult to play with but they sure run alot better ...............

NGiorgio

09-13-2009, 02:00 PM