Javier Conde

[ssante]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EvcL4hc4Jc&feature=related

IMHO: quite amazing for I believe early college age. Javier has alot of other material on Utube as well.

[nickc]

Great, and how about this 15 year old kid from Sevilla:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91_qczDRkjU&feature=related

and he's got a really great-sounding Conde guitar.

[NGiorgio]

Great, and how about this 15 year old kid from Sevilla:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91_qczDRkjU&feature=related

and he's got a really great-sounding Conde guitar.

Terrific, I especially like the Mullet and the earring.;-)

[ssante]

Terrific, I especially like the Mullet and the earring.;-)

As Nicholas Cage said in Peggy Sue Got Married :

"Whats the sense of being a teenager if you can't dress weird!"

I remember my mom and dad being appalled at my style as a teenager. :cool:

[NGiorgio]

As Nicholas Cage said in Peggy Sue Got Married :

"Whats the sense of being a teenager if you can't dress weird!"

I remember my mom and dad being appalled at my style as a teenager. :cool:

Yeah, that is so true.

In this case, expressing his individuality, perhaps?

[NGiorgio]

To get back to Javier Conde, I first heard of him through a link on one of the flamenco forums a few years ago. A very talented young man. I see no reason why he will not become a definite force to be reckoned with in the world of flamenco. He seems to have all of the tools needed to have an exceptional career. Although I do not know how good his compositional skills are, his technique is right on the money.

Don't you just hate it when these kids play so well at such a young age.;-)

[ssante]

To get back to Javier Conde, I first heard of him through a link on one of the flamenco forums a few years ago. A very talented young man. I see no reason why he will not become a definite force to be reckoned with in the world of flamenco. He seems to have all of the tools needed to have an exceptional career. Although I do not know how good his compositional skills are, his technique is right on the money.

Don't you just hate it when these kids play so well at such a young age.;-)

With respect to Javier Conde, I feel his technique is clean and crisp with a fair amount of finesse. I agree he could eventually become a definite force once he matures and lives lifes ups/downs and hopefully that will be reflected in the depth and expression of his playing. It remains to be seen if he is a composer like PDL,Tomatito, Nunez and Amigo. In regard to maturity; I listened to Gastor last night (for the first time) and was "blown away" by his depth of emotional expression. I feel the same way with Amigo's "Poeta" project. Sometimes it feels like I am on an emotional "rollie coaster" as the music me.

I hate to admit this but their was a time when I would avoid buying Flamenco's CD's which much singing on them. I don't speak Spanish (unfortunately) :-( and didn't really get the style of song. I did get the guitar playing.

However, that has changed and I am enjoying the singing and interplay of voice and guitar and in fact look forward to the singing now. :D I am especially impressed with many of the singers on Tomatitos releases including I believe his sister. I still do not speak "Spanish" but am now considering picking up the "Rosetta Stone" to learn it. But first things first and right now that focus is Flamenco guitar studies.

[NGiorgio]

I hate to admit this but their was a time when I would avoid buying Flamenco's CD's which much singing on them. I don't speak Spanish (unfortunately) :-( and didn't really get the style of song. I did get the guitar playing.

However, that has changed and I am enjoying the singing and interplay of voice and guitar and in fact look forward to the singing now. :D I am especially impressed with many of the singers on Tomatitos releases including I believe his sister. I still do not speak "Spanish" but am now considering picking up the "Rosetta Stone" to learn it. But first things first and right now that focus is Flamenco guitar studies.

Just about everything flamenco comes from the cante. Listening to it will improve your playing even if you do not understand the lyric.

I think the Tomatito CD you are referring to, has his daughter singing.

[ssante]

Just about everything flamenco comes from the cante. Listening to it will improve your playing even if you do not understand the lyric.

I think the Tomatito CD you are referring to, has his daughter singing.

Yes you are correct. Its his Daughter. She has a lovely voice. I will be spending alot of time carefully listening to the interplay of cante and guitar.

[NGiorgio]

With respect to Javier Conde, I feel his technique is clean and crisp with a fair amount of finesse. I agree he could eventually become a definite force once he matures and lives lifes ups/downs and hopefully that will be reflected in the depth and expression of his playing. It remains to be seen if he is a composer like PDL,Tomatito, Nunez and Amigo. In regard to maturity; I listened to Gastor last night (for the first time) and was "blown away" by his depth of emotional expression. I feel the same way with Amigo's "Poeta" project. Sometimes it feels like I am on an emotional "rollie coaster" as the music me.

Yes, Javier may need to mature some in regard to feeling and expression.

Gastor proves that you do not need to be a technical wizard to play with feeling and soul.

If you feel the emotion when listening to the music, you are on your way to having it become part of your soul.:-)

[cuchares]

Diego was a technical wizard!
Don't use the classical yardstick of PDL and the classical fellows as a guide.Diego played flamenco w/ flamenco technique not "Classical gas por Solea".He wasn't Sabicas but who is or was?Sabicas was his fan and vice versa.

[NGiorgio]

Diego was a technical wizard!
Don't use the classical yardstick of PDL and the classical fellows as a guide.Diego played flamenco w/ flamenco technique not "Classical gas por Solea".He wasn't Sabicas but who is or was?Sabicas was his fan and vice versa.

That may be true, but I think we do have to use PdL and those who came after him as a yardstick of todays flamenco.

That in no way reduces Diego's legacy as a player. I am a fan of todays contemporary players but I still can respect and enjoy traditional flamenco.

Do you sell strings? ;-)

[La Vieja Escuela]

I wouldn't call Diego a technical wizard because he wasn't concerned about technique as much as he was the music. He was more of a flamenco guitar genius developing his own melodies in perfect compas. His focus was accompaniment and during a 10 hours juerga (a short one) he might play 10 minutes of solo. For those just discovering the genius of Diego you will note one difference separating him from the virtuoso soloist is his use of the thumb playing falsetas filled with ligato rather than a flashy picato. Also using more golpes than most and using simple sounding, yet complex to master dynamics to achieve a distinct driving rhythm. He played what he felt and he felt compas. "No feel compas, no play compas." I started learning the toque and appreciating the cante of Moron 40 years ago and still some days I feel like a beginner. Not to be overlooked are Diegos nephews and Grandnephews.

[Great Googly Moogly]

"Classical gas por Solea"That was funny! :)

[La Vieja Escuela]

I always like to hear a players take on Solea. Only one I could find with Javier was a parrot performance of Sabicas. The kid is amazing. Maybe in time he will develop his on style and improvise. I admire the old gitano players that never played the same thing in the same order. Compositions didn't exist, just palos and their improvisations on them based on the moment. IMO that is the essence of flamenco. When I watch the following video I am blown away with how well this kid mimics Sabicas. I am entertained and impressed, however my mind doesn't paint any pictures and I get no emotion from it. The older I get, I become more a musician and less of a technician.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4cJQ8y2IDg&feature=related

[ssante]

The older I get, I become more a musician and less of a technician.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4cJQ8y2IDg&feature=related

Couldn't agree more. Its the music that counts.

[Robo]

I'm a complete novice to Flamenco guitar, but liked what I saw and heard from this guy, Ricardo Tamez....just thought I would pass it along....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULxVdyrzXkY