Segovia's Estudio Remembranza

[Jon Carter]

Anyone know of a source for sheet music to this piece?

I'm in the process of converting the tab into notation using music writing software, which seems ironic considering that the tab was probably formulated from the sheet music anyway. However, there are some pieces of music that one must have the original sheet music for. For me, this is one of them.

I think this is one of Segovia's best compositions, it has momentum and direction, not unlike some of JSB’s music. I would like to know the history behind it, maybe someone knows of his inspiration for writing it?

Thanks
JC

[Jonny Hotnuts]

Estudio Remembranza is also one of my favoriets to play. And I dont want to get your hopes up by seeing this post because I dont have the sheet. But I have revised the tab to make it hold true to the original recording and to make it playable.

I know this is not what you are looking for but if it will help let me know.
Wish I had some info on this tune as well.

-JH

[Jon Carter]

Thanks for the reply Jonny - thought you might be a Segovia fan.

I take it you have a recording by the Maestro. I only have recordings by Cristopher Parkening and Alirio Diaz. If you are familiar with these, which rendition would you say is truer to Andres Segovias. Personally I prefer Alirio's take, but I know Cristopher was a disciple. What do you think?

JC

[Jon Carter]

Of course Alirio was a student of Segovia as well. Whether directly or indirectly I guess every classical guitarist is a student of Segovia's in a way.

[Jonny Hotnuts]

I have only heard the Segovia version (it was some time ago and it was a poor recording)
The version I have is from Alirio Diaz. This is the one that I have used as my reference of learning. Would like to hear the CP version, even though it would likely piss me off as I have devoted a great deal of time in playing it as smoothly as Alirio at tempo, and there would surely be something about the CP version I liked and therefore would end up changing in my own playing.

I can’t say what versions is truer to the original.

I have always tried to maintain a very liberal view on musical renditions, to me if a different version of a tune sounds better it is better, even though it may stray from the original composition. I myself find that I add nuances to much of the stuff I play only because it seems as if it should have been there in the first place or that I have played it so much it is the only way I can play it again without loosing my mind.
Is this wrong?

But I can understand from a purest standpoint how holding true to the original score is important. And I can also bet that people say a few of the songs I play are “done all wrong”……such is life I guess!

I have a place to get the original, I think now I will.
You have got my curiosity going.
Will upload the mp3 if you have a place to do it.
Maybe upload the Jonny Hotnut version too!

:)

-JH

[Jon Carter]

I would like to hear John Williams play it, maybe I'll voice a request when I see him perform in November.....or maybe not. He will be playing the Chaconne though, so that will be an experience.

JW tends to play as the composer intended the music to be heard, he is a musical messenger who translates what the composer is saying to us. He immortalizes their vision, making the composer the performer.

I guess I'll have to source Segovia's performance of Remembranza to really hear what he was trying to express. I think when a musician performs their own composition, it is untouchable.

Christopher Parkening's rendition is slower overall, more hesitant and with greater use of dynamics compared to Alirio Diaz who performs it with more impetus, and a stricter adherence to rythmn, which of course is fundamental.
Without compas the music is lost. I guess CP just plays around with it a bit more.

Having said all this, it was intended as a romantic piece. And CP's take is more romantic. Who knows, it's just my opinion. Hey! I just wanted the sheet music.

It would be good to hear your version Jonny.

JC

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[edwardcav]

Guys, I'd just like to say that after this post I downloaded the Alirio Diaz version and at first I thought it was garbage... Truly! But since then it has grown on me so much, it's unlike any other composition for guitar I've ever heard - its direction and almost polyphonic nature - its like the guitar is telling a story. Those with a vivid imagination will decipher the notes to discover the tale that unravels...

My take on it anyways 8)

Also, Jon Carter, let me know how the John Williams concert goes. I'd love to see him live one day. I agree aswell, I think John would play it beautifully.

So guys... I'm curious. If that is the best Segovia compostion, what would you say is the best Segovia recording of all time? I am intrigued by the history of Segovia - would like to learn more.

What do you think?

[Jonny Hotnuts]

I would not say it is his "best" song.
Estudio Sin Luz with its poetical movements and great story to me are equally good. Remembranza is more technically involved (and I have found it to be difficult to memorize because of its juxtaposed notes in its bridges) but has been well worth the effort as it is great fun to play.

Op 47 No 3 Suite Española - Sevilla (Sevillanas) [Issac Albenez]
To me is the greatest guitar solo I have every heard.
Simply epic.

[rquinones27]

I have to agree with you on that Jonny Hotnuts. Op 47 No 3 Suite Española - Sevilla (Sevillanas) [Issac Albenez] is a great piece. In fact, is the piece I have designated as my personal goal. Although I can't play it yet, someday I know I will.

[Jonny Hotnuts]

When I first heard Sevilla, I thought it was a duet!
In shock I now know it is not!

I am currently learning "La Maja De Goya (Tonadilla No 7) - Enrique Granados" (also a very nice song) and at my current rate should have it to tempo in about a week.

Then it is time for Sevilla!


Good luck to you in your qwest, I need luck too......after all, this isnt Bon Jovi were talking about!

-JH

[RCP1716]

When I first heard Sevilla, I thought it was a duet!
In shock I now know it is not!

I am currently learning "La Maja De Goya (Tonadilla No 7) - Enrique Granados" (also a very nice song) and at my current rate should have it to tempo in about a week.

Then it is time for Sevilla!


Good luck to you in your qwest, I need luck too......after all, this isnt Bon Jovi were talking about!

-JH


I just want to say that Asturias also know as "Leyenda", is for me as good as Sevilla. Issac Albeniz was a pianist of great talent. He was one of the best composer in his time. These musical pieces sound a lot better in the guitar even that they were originally for Piano.

[Jonny Hotnuts]

RCP1716, I can understand you like Asturias, after all it was one of Segovias favorite works. And I must say is a damn fine song, infact it is what I use as a warm up on a daily basis. And you are 100% intiltled to your opinion. But it is hard for me to see it as a epic composition. I am not meaning it is any less a song because its structure is less involved.

I dont want to sound like an a-hole for saying this but it is not really all that hard to play (when we are talking about playing the master works.) I was able to transcribe the majority of it by memory. Something I could never do with Sevilla.

Do you play Asturias?

Will send you the music if you dont have it.