Master guitar outsourcing

[Dmitry]

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[NGiorgio]

Here we go, again. Gonna get busted, I think.

[Dmitry]

Ok. I see.

Could you, please, sujest me any sities where I can post guitar trading messages
or search for people interested in making instruments

[edwardcav]

make your own website

[Dmitry]

Are there any usefull sugestions ?

[edwardcav]

get real buddy, what do you expect? i make websites, its not all that hard you know.

just gotta remember your target audience... something you have failed to do in this case.

[keith]

for most of adult life i have been a whitewater kayaker. here in the united states we take for granted the newest and technological advanced equipment, etc. in the late 1980's we as a country had the opportunity to have raft races in russia. here we were bringing in fleece, linear plastics, etc. etc. and the russians were taking old inner tubes and sewing them together, using broomsticks for paddles, using recycled wool sweaters, etc. why? because they did not have the wealth of materials, technology, opportunities, etc. we do here in america.

the guitar teacher who taught me was shocked that i would take off bass strings and toss them. he told me how to boil them, etc. i remarked to him that the new bass strings only cost about $4. in russia, he told me, that could be what many people make in a week or so. and then, the supply may not be available. and the fact that his father learned to play while in prison in siberia is yet another story.

the moral of these ramblings: we take for granted what we have here in the united states. dmitry was trying his best to enter a market he probably has only heard about. i am sure many folks from around the world are in awe of individuals who own guitars equal to a year's salary in their country.

so guys, ease up on dmitry. edwardcav: maybe you could exchange e-mails with dmitry and help him out--or point him in a direction that may help him. he may not have access to the resources we take for granted. he did in fact hit the right target audience--he just unfortunately tried in a forum that forbids selling guitars. hey i have been cyber spanked for trying to sell a couple of guitars--and a few others of us have too.

and g.s.i. maybe you could open an avenue for dmitry. about 100 years ago, this dude, manuel ramirez took a chance on a couple of young bucks who came knocking on the door for work: do the names santos and domingo ring a bell? you never know.

[Dmitry]

May be you are right .... but you forgot something ...

Ukraine and Russia have something that is very valuable - brains of our people ... our programmers are among the best in the world, our mathimatics, classical music school are one of the strongest in the world.

I'm a programmer ... And I'm working on offshore projects. 60% of my customers are americans :) I'm making very good money here ... Why ? Don't you have programmers who can work in medical, agricultural and electronics fields AT ONE TIME ? I think so .... and this is 5 times cheaper for you ! :)

I'm just trying to help my guitar master to find some customers.
May be I chose a wrong forum, but I'm in a search .... I would be glad if someone helps me to find a "right place" for finding customers. Thank you.

By the way, boilling strings can give you a very good bright effect, especialy for slap ... of course if you know how to boil them correctly ;-)

[keith]

well it looks like in my attempt to help in this matter i may have assumed the worse case scenario--boo on me :oops: although many in other countries do not have what we have here, a lot do have the benefits. so i guess i have to stand down on this one.

dmitry--if you are trying to get your guitar master known, maybe you need to do it the old fashion way--go to distributors and stores, either in person or the internet, and sell your product. since you are familiar with americans and american business, you may want to ask some of the americans with whom you work for (or with) how to get a new product out there. check out the guitars for sale at g.s.i. this should give you an idea on how to present the guitars.

good luck. just remember that many years ago a lot of folks might have snickered at the idea of a great guitar coming from australia--and then came along greg smallman, and the rest is history.

[edwardcav]

I am just quick to jump on posts such as that because it is clear that they skimmed through the forum policies when registering... Kieth, I have no sympathy for that.

Dmitry: good luck with your journey. But i was serious - and you are a programmer. A website may not be a bad idea.

On the topic of Australian guitars - by "the rest is history" do you mean that Smallman guitars are now internationally respected as a high quality concert guitar? Or that there are other Aussie luthiers that are giving it a go? I recently played a 1993 Smallman, along with 5 or 6 other Australian guitars with about half (or less) the list price of that Smallman which was about US$20000. they all played beautifully, in fact, one in particular, the Simon Marty guitar (which is played by big names in Australia such as Slava + Lenard Grigoryan, Karin Schaupp) sounded absolutely beautiful t me - like nothing I've ever played before. So... sorry for the rant but, just wanted to let you know, and hopefully others, that there is more luthier quality down under than some assume... (luthiers such as eugene philp, jeremy locke, jim redgate, richard howell, jeff kemp and more)

Worth a lok-up on the old internet. More and more becoming a useful resource for luthiers or "guitar masters" to reach their audience. :wink:

[NGiorgio]

Hey Edward Cav, I have a guitar made by Australian Luthier, John Price. Do you know of, or anything about him? Purchased the instrument from a dealer in here in NYC, but have not been able to find any info on him. No website, E-mail address or anything .....

[edwardcav]

NGiorgio, give me your email address - I can give you a contact here in OZ that will know all about him. I have heard of John Price, and he is, indeed, an Australian luthier. There is a guy in Australia who knows about all Aussie luthiers, you should get in contact with him. I'm sure he'd be able to help you out, and perhaps give a rough estimation on the value of that particular guitar.

[NGiorgio]

Edwardcav:

You can reach me at newgenperf@aol.com.

Thanks .....

[guitargirl]

Dmitry, Contact place4two@aol.com
Thanks

[Dmitry]

hello guitargirl :)

Thank you for this address. I've mailed already.
Is it yours or whom ?