What is everyone else playing. Show your song set.

[Jonny Hotnuts]

Just wondering what is on everyones playlist.
This is my set of songs that I can play through without breaks and to tempo.
Only the songs in red are from memory. THe others are played from music.
But note I have only played classical for 7 months.
I try to learn a song a week. And should be able to give my first concert in less than a year.

So what is everyone else playing?



Andrés Segovia:
Estudio Remembranza
Estudio Sin Luz

Antonio Lauro:
Valse Venezolano No 3

Bach:
AIR on the string of G
Bouree (double) from Partita No 1 for Solo Violin BWV 1002
Bourree
Gavotte I & II from 6th Cello Suite
Bouree from Partita No 1 for solo violin
Prelude from Suite No. 1 for Cello (BWV1007)
Prelude, Cello Suite No 3 in C, BWV 1009
Sonata number one in g-minor

Enrique Granados:
Tonadilla No 7

Francisco Tarrega:
Adelita
Lagrima

Isaac Albeniz:
Asturias (Leyenda)

Leopold Weiss:
Fantasie

Felix Mendelssohn:
Canzonetta del Quartet

Gasper Sanz:
Espanoleta

Romance de Amor

Torroba:
Manzanares El Real (A la Moca Fermosa)
Sonatina in A, I Allegretto

[edwardcav]

here we go

[edwardcav]

For 7 months, that is quite impresive. I tried to start a post like this in Players and Personalities a while ago, it didn't pick up :( Although I play mostly exercises and studies, here they are:

Bach - cello prelude in D Major suite 1

i learned bach's bouree II for a bit there, based on the john williams arr.

eric satie - gymnopedie no.1 arr. parkening (tab)

torroba - romance de los pinos (tab)

bach bouree in Em bmv996

bach minuet in G (anna magdalena notebook)


Not really impressive at all, but I have deliberately kept away from difficult ones - if only learning the first few bars of the hard ones just to satisfy me for a few weeks and then might go back - I know others know this feeling!

[Keelor]

7 months ?!!
Impressive. You haven't been playing the guitar for only 7 months, did you ? o_o


I've been playing the guitar for 5 years. My playlist :

Luis de Narvaez
Guardame las vacas
Cancion del Emperador

John Dowland
Sir John Smith's Almain
Fantasia P 1
Lachrimae Pavan

Domenico Scarlatti
Sonata K 208
Sonata K 380

J-S. Bach
Allemande BWV 996
Bouree (one or two "r" ?) BWV 996
(soon the whole suite ! ;))

Silvius Leopold Weiss
Fantasie

Robert De Visée
Sarabande, Menuet, Passacaille en mi mineur

Gaspar Sanz
Pavana and Espagnoleta
Folias

J.K. Mertz
Capriccio

Fernando Sor
Opus 60
(Folias)

Francisco Tarrega
Adelita

Heitor Villa-Lobos
Prelude n°4

(Traditional blues
In the evening)


Added to this a lot of other pieces, which are less interesting, or not totaly mastered yet.

[M. Stephenson]

My current playlist, which I am in the process of recording for my first amateur CD to be given as Christmas gifts to friends and family:

Steve Hackett:
Andante in C
Black Light
By Paved Fountain
Horizons
Petropolis
The Sleeping Sea
The Vigil

Steve Howe:
Mood for a Day

Zemsky:
The Water Sign (intro & ending)

Isaac Albeniz:
Asturias (Segovia Transcription)

Gaspar Sanz:
Espanoletas

Francisco Tarrega:
Lagrima

Anon:
Romanza
Greensleeves
Kemps Jig

So far, all of the recordings have some mis-steps, but they are for the most part fairly good. I am intentionally resisting the urge to start splicing the best parts of different takes to get a "perfect" recording as I am trying to prepare myself for performing in public, and forcing myself to do "one take" recordings are really helping me get there.

Next year I will start working on a new list of about 40 minutes of music, including "Sakura Variations", the complete "Suite Espanola" by Gasper Sanz as well a few more Hackett pieces - which I will record and give as gifts.

I am new to this board, so a little about myself:
I started playing as a teenager, totally quit for 18 years, started playing again about 2 years ago when I discovered that the Hackett pieces were available in sheet music and started taking lessons again about 8 months ago. I have been pleasantly surprised at the progress I have made since starting lessons again - I never dreamed that I would be attempting a recording of Asturias (although I will be playing it at about 100 bpm instead of 120 bpm).

Michael.

[RDS]

Playing Asturias after 7 months. You, my friend are a genius! I've been playing alot longer than that and would not consider trying to play Asturias. Rick

[NGiorgio]

M.Stephenson,

I also stopped playing for a similar length of time. I wonder if you would like to share some of the pitfalls that may have affected you when you got back into it. I know that I had many. There may be others out there who may be coming back from a long "vacation" without the guitar. Our experiences might benefit others. If you are interested we could start a new thread. I have been back playing for almost three years now. It was very difficult at first, but it sure has been worth the time invested. As you mentioned, there is a great deal of satisfaction in seeing the progress that can be achieved with hard work.

[Jonny Hotnuts]

I have been playing guitar from 15 (29 now), started classical beacuse I was board with Vai and Satch. Practice no less than 2 hours per night and concentrate on learning songs.

Asturias sounds harder than it is.
It is made of about 5 repeating sections (Descending minor scale pedal tone in 3rds with a few variations) until some jazzy union octive bits and a little solo stuff. Then it repeats.
Not that hard, you should give it a try Rick, if nothing else to work out the first few bars, it is a great warm up and drives the ladies hotnuts!

[steve v]

NGiorgio,

I'd be in that group. I just started playing again about two months ago after not having played for twelve years. Frustrating doesn't even begin to describe what it feels like to go from having been able to play Bach's Prelude, Fugue and Allegro (BWV 998) to not even being able to play a C-major scale.

[keith]

here is mine (titles abbreviated for classical, for flamenco, palos without titles--to save space)

flamenco: 5 solea's; 3 bulerias; 2 farrucas; 2 granadinas; 3 sequiryas; 3 malaguenas; 1 rumba; 1 tanquillo; 2 fandangos; 1 tientos; 2 tarantas; 2 veridales; 2 zambras; 3 alegris'; 1 sevillianas; 1 zapateado; 1 tarantos por bulerias

mostly above are: sabicas, traditional, paco, and a few mine.

flamenco from classical: i rescored el amor brujo from classical to flamenco. i play some piece close to the original score and others are very flamenco--but along the score lines.

classical:
tarrega: alhambra, arabe, tango, lagrima, adelita
albeniz: leyenda, rumores
domeniconi: koyunbaba
tchaikovsky: wooden soliders, arabian dance
villa lobos prelude 4 and 11
bizet: carmen habernera
debussy: girl with flaxen hair
anon: romance, greensleeves, el noy (llobet arr.)
bach: gavotte 1 and 2
mendelssohn: wedding march (in hopes of scoring a wedding gig)

[RDS]

Thanks for the encouragement Hotnuts! I too have stopped playing for 10yrs started again on and off for 15yrs, got lured into jazz, classical, jazz, currently playing classical for the last 10 months. I'm trying to get up to speed by working on the Brouwer studies, HVL prelude #3 , mallorca, adelita and lagrima ,Bach prelude, Sor studies etc. Rick

[NGiorgio]

My current repertoire:

Bouree Bmi,
Prelude Dmi,
Prelude Dmaj, ... J.S. Bach

Danza Brasiliera,
Choro,
Guitarreando, ... Jorge Morel
Misionera, F. Bustamante,
Canarios, G. Sanz,
Romanza, N. Paganini, ... Arr. J. Morel

Choro #1,
Etudes #1 & 7,
Preludes #1,2,3 & 4 ... H. Villa Lobos

Venezuelan Waltz #1 & 3 ... A. Lauro

El Colibri, ... J. Sagreras

Sounds of Bells, ... J. Pernambuco

Plainte, ... Marco Pereira

Brazilliance, .. L. Almeida

Lagrima,
Adelita,
El Testamen de Amelia,
Recuerdos de la Alhambra, ... F.Tarrega

Romanza de Amour ... Anon. Parkening version

Leyenda, ... I. Albeniz

Spanish Dance #5 ... E. Granados


Flamenco:

Solea (2)
Alegrias (2)
Bulerias (2)
Seguriyias
Guajiras
Fandangos
Rumba (2) ... Juan Martin

Bulerias
Sevillanas ... Moraito

Bulerias
Minera ... Tomatito

And a bunch of Standards, Bossanovas and Blues Solos .....

[TheEvan]

Giorgio, I've recently caught the Brazilian bug myself. So far I play 3 Bellinatti's and 1 Pereira in addition to some Baden Powell.

My latest additions to my classical rep would be Barrios-La Catedral (the 3rd movement is hard but not as impossible as I imagined), Albeniz-Torre Bermeja & another I can't remember the name. And 6 or 7 of Torrba's Castles.

[NGiorgio]

TheEvan:

The Brazilian music is fascinating. I have some Bellinati material which is on my to do list. I play some Baden Powell stuff, and have much more of his which I hope to get to. Have you heard Paulinho Nogueira. He played without using fingernails, just fingertips. Had a great sound though. He was earlier than Powell in the bossanova movement. I have one CD of his. Fabulous stuff. Unfortunately, he passed away this year. Pereira is great, too. And Carlos Barbosa-Lima. My problem is there just doesn't seem to be enough time in the day to play all this music. I'm torn between classical, flamenco and Brazilian stuff. The Brazilian jazz is just so cool. By accident I found an old publication at Guitar Solo. It's Jobim, Bonfa and Powell tunes arranged by Brian Hodel. Outstanding solo arrangements. Totally Brazilian. Another book which is more modern, is "The Brazilian Guitar Book" by Nelson Faria. He is amazing and gets into Samba, Choro, Bossa Nova, Frevo and Baiao. Got this book about a year ago and have not finished it. It's tough, but very up to date Brazilian. I like all of the South American music but Brazilian is my favorite.

[Mikey]

Hey, Im new to the forum but here's what I'm playing right now...

Prelude, Loure, Gavotte en Rondeaux-From the IV Bach Lute Suite. BWV 1006a.
Sarabande, Gavotte, Gigue- from Ponce's suite in a minor.
Asturius
Preludes 1 & 2, Etudes 1 & 11-Villa Lobos
Sonata in A-Scarlatti
Allemande-Bach I Lute Suite
Prologue-Albert Harris
Capriccio Arabe-Tarrega
La Catedral-Barrios
Faire-Andrew York
Zapateado-from Rodrigo's "Three Spanish Pieces" (in the process of learning the
Fandango and Passacalgia. Amazing pieces! if you haven't heard them check
them out!)

That's about it as to what I'm performing now. Since I'm new to the forum here's some bio info. I've been playing for just under four years. Most of that time I was self-taught, yet studied with dedication. I now study at Lewis and Clark College in Portland, OR. I play a Sean Hancock guitar (it rocks!). PS This forum is a really great resource and I am happy to now be a part of it.

[foxtrot]

I'm very new to guitar playing and am currently using the EMedia Guitar Method vol 1 to learn with. I'm also obtaining some songs from the OGLA site. So far on my not so impressive play list:

House of the Rising Sun
Downtown Train
Country Rodes
Tequila Sunrise
Amazing Grace
Peaceful Easy Feeling
Scarbourogh Fair

[edwardcav]

Mikey, you have an impressive repertiore, but also have an Aussie guitar :wink: check this post out please: http://4.18.36.7/gsiforum/viewtopic.php?p=1241

[Rex]

I'm more of a "coffee house player" than pure classical.
Beatles-
Here Comes the Sun
Jim Croce-
Time in a Bottle
I'll Have to Say I Love You in a Song
Operator
Bread-
If
Diary
Gordan Lightfoot-
If You Could Read My Mind
Johnny Cash-
I Walk the Line
Folsum Prison Blues
Traditional-
I'll Fly Away
Heaven's Bright Shore
Diamonds in the Rough
St. Anne's Reel
But I also put some classical in the mix. Here is what I can do right now:
Bach-
Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring
Sarabande (from Partita 1) (the most difficult piece I know)
Carcassi-
Slow Waltz
Adantino
Giuliani-
Etude 4
Anon-
17 cent Aria
Pacebel-
Canon in D (I don't do the entire piece yet)
Carulli-
Adantino
And I'm currently working on Bourree BWV 996 by Bach, Vivaldi's Largo, and Gavotte by Handel. Hopefully they will be ready to play out in a few months.
As you can see, most of my stuff is probably student grade, but most of the people I play for like it and don't know any better!

[Jonny Hotnuts]

Hey Mikey


I live in P-Town also.
You might know my good friend William Jenks www.williamjenks.com
(we played an unrehersed inpromptu duet of Cannon in D in the Clackamas "82nd st." Guitar Center the other weekend.)

I am there every Saturday, usually around noon.
Ask anyone that works there where Jonny Hotnuts is.

Funny thing.....

Its my real name!!!!

We will play some music.
Good times.

-JH

[edwardcav]

Jonny - is Hotnuts truly your last name????

[sseow]

i honestly doubt jonny can play those pieces in 7 months... up to the tempo and non-stop ??? ... then he must be Segovia II...??!!
talking about the piece Felix Mendelssohn: Canzonetta del Quartet... there is one story i read from segovia's book. once segovoa play this piece in a concert at a very fast tempo, one audience came out and asked him " u should not play the canzonetta so fast ...!"
... segovia answer..."becasue I CAN !"
jonny, u can ?? why don u tell me at wat tempo u play the canzonetta and i will compare this with segovia's..... i will reveal the segovia's tempo in that concert if jonny tell us...
seow
singapore

[Sia]

Like some other folks here, I started on steel strings (28 years ago) and switched over to the classical guitar (15 years later). Two years ago I got carpal tunnel syndrome and had to stop playing altogether. I resumed playing about 3 months ago. It has been a painful process, but except for the pieces with (*), I am have reclaimed most of my past repertoire:

Tarragea: Recuerdos de la Alhambra, Capricho Arabe, Adelita, Lagrima, Estudio in Em (ed. Liona Boyd),
Sor: Estudio #2, #5, #17 and #19, Andante, Minuet Op. 11 No. 6, Variations on Mozart(*)
Villa-Lobos: Preludes #1, #2, #3, #4, Etude #1, Choros No. 1 (*)
Albeniz: Asturias, Mallorca(*), Tango(*), Granada(*)
Lecuona: Malaguena (ed. Liona Boyd/Richard Phillips)
Chopin: Prelude No. 20 (tr. Boyd), Vals Op 64 No. 2 (tr. Boyd)
Liona Boyd: Ensueno
Bach: Preludium, Minuet, Bourree, Jesu Joy of Man’s Desiring(*) (tr. S. Papas)
Satie: Gymnopedie #1 (tr. Boyd)
Schubert: Ave Maria (tr. Fortin)
Vivaldi: Largo from Concerto in D (tr. Richard Fortin)
Beethoven: Adagio Cantabile from Pathetique Sonata (tr. Fortin/Boyd), Moonlight Sonata first movement (tr. E. Barreiro)
Giuliani: Allegro
Galileo: Saltarello
Albinoni: Adagio for strings (tr. Unknown)
Anonymous: Spanish Romance (ed. Boyd), El Noy de la Mare (ed. Boyd)
Christmas Songs: O Holy Night, Silent Night, O Little Town of Bethlehem, God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen (tr. Boyd)

[Jonny Hotnuts]

sseow



While I am not trying to undermine the work I have put into learning this stuff, take into consideration that I am a very accomplished guitarist, and while classical for the most part is new to me, the knowledge I have gained from learning entire albums (or close to entire) of the most difficult music ever written (i.e., Passion and Warfare [Steve Vai] Surfing with the Alien, Flying in a Blue Dream [Satch] Au Via Musicom [Eric Johnson] Tribute [R. Rhoads] ect.) Has given be the ability to play classical with almost no left hand difficulty. And as a rule the right hand is fairly straight forward. Simply put I don’t find many classical peaces that difficult. Memorizing however I do and this is what I have been concentrating on for the last 7 months when I discovered a new realm of guitar.

It was funny that you would say “you must be Segovia II”
As I am not.
Nor was I Vai II, Satch II or anyone else for whom I was once compared.

You see,
Segovia took something that was not there and made it so.
He in his life perfected what he did, and this prevented others to best him.
Playing the majority of classical that could be transcribed and still hold true to the song and even asking of composers of his time to assist him and to write songs for the guitar because even at a young age he knew their would not be enough peaces for his concert career.

So what if I can play Eddie V. Halen or Steve R. Vaughn. I am simply painting pictures of things already done.

And the ambitious Segovia put the cup so far out of reach that there will never be another to accomplish what he did.
Certainly not I.

I can understand however, if you feel that what I have accomplished in a relative short amount of time undermines that in what you have strived for with apparently less success. But I can assure you, I am 100% for real.

Now it seems time to step up to the plate.
Stand and deliver.
Provide a place to send my mp3s, not only to you but made available to anyone that wants, disbelieves or curious what and who Jonny F-ing Hotnuts is! Because if you dont, I will soon have the means.
As you can see http://4.18.36.7/gsiforum/viewtopic.php?t=198
I have been trying to do just this.

And Canzonetta del Quartet….. it is harder playing “Bouree (double) from Partita No 1 for Solo Violin BWV 1002”

Let the madness begin.

[sseow]

jonny...
the golden question remains no answer :( ...i'm just interested to find out when u play Canzonetta del Quartet, what is thwe tempo you play that you consider "up to the tempo"... this is just so that we put thing in the right perspective and not to mislead the forum member... :lol:
seow
singapore

[silkmd]

I would like to share not only my repertoire but also some brief comments on what I play. I am 50 and have for the last 10 years had RSI (Repetitive Strain Injury) from trying to learn the right hand techniques of flamenco without patience! It’s only been in the last two years that I had been able to play with any consistency and then only the easier and gentler classical pieces.

These limitations, coupled with the mellowing of age, have directed me to search for music that “moves” rather than “challenges” me. As such I have come to appreciate the subtle aspects of music and playing. I still enjoy playing what faster pieces I can, but the enjoyment of the subtleties, the nuances of music has become that much more important to me. The old classical pieces I learnt many years ago no longer interest me - Sor, Giuliani Albeniz, Torroba etc - except Bach. I suppose it’s a case of “been there, done that”.

The two classics I have known for the last 30 years are Classical Gas (M. Williams) and Cavatina (S. Myers), together with a more recent addition of Baden Powell de Aquino’s Introduction and Poem on the Eyes of Lovers, make up my “play for people” repertoire. Yet after all these years, I am astounded how much this music can still reveal. Every time I play them, something different occurs. My playing of Cavatina, for example, has over the last two years spontaneously slowed down and developed a more rubato feel, while still sticking to the rhythm. The same with Powell’s piece which, although rather obscure and dates from early in his career, has great beauty for me.

I am learning many of Andy York’s pieces (Andecy, In Sorrow’s Wake, Reflections, Sunday Morning Overcast, Waiting for Dawn, Watercolor). I find his music expressive, modern, emotive and within my technical abilities. The only real difficulties I have are the harmonics! I recently bought a CD “Guitar Lullaby” by Richard Cobo, which, although designed for children, has some very sweet guitar music (and most of it new to me). I am learning Kleynjans Barcarolle #1 and Assad’s Valseana (from Aquarelle) from this CD. I would love to learn more of the other pieces from these two composers but they do not appear to be in print yet - Assad’s Children’s Cradle and Kleynjans’ Tristesse.

I also like to “fool around” with some flamenco pieces, particularly Cancion and La Lola Rumba (Paco Pena) and if I am feeling really spirited and in good form – Percusion Flamenca (Zapateado) by Paco de Lucia.

[NGiorgio]

Silkmd,

Terrific ...... Another Baden Powell fan. I have Powell's "Samba Triste" in my "popular rep". I really like his music. I also play "Classical Gas" and "Cavatina" (arranged by Juan Martin). Yes, I also find that type of material is good for casual, intimate performance, instead of heavier classical pieces. I also agree, you have to play music that moves you.

The flamenco stuff is great fun and can be intoxicating.

[keith]

leyenda in 7 months: piece of cake if you have a history prior to learning it. 8)

leyenda in 7 months: difficult if day one of the 7 month journey is picking up a guitar for the first time. but it is do-able.

hey sseow: jonny did answer the question. :) in a previous post he stated he had been playing for about 14 or so years and was "accomplished". so we probably can state that his left hand was well developed prior to leyenda, and since leyenda is really scale work, learning the left hand probably was not difficult. discipline practice ("at least 2 hours a day") can yield a lot of progress.

quotes are jonny's

and i think jonny made an interesting observation: those before us did a lot of the primary work and we, following them have them as models and to some degree, a launching point--we are using the john williams and paco de lucias of the world, no matter in what field, as our models in our early development and then exceeding them. this is how things work in most areas of life and exceeding the master is to be expected. 8)

[NGiorgio]

Not to beat this to death and this is not meant to defend JH, as he needs no defense. I have personally known many guitarists who were excellent players, go on to study classical guitar and learn so much, so quickly that it would really make my head spin. It would piss me off sometimes because on many occasions, I had to work harder to obtain the same results. I first studied guitar, plectrum style, went on to play jazz, rock etc. I had a very good musical background before taking up classical, so It was easier for me than some others. However, we all learn at different rates of speed. It is not a contest. Some have to work harder than others. It is that simple.

I also have to agree to what Jonny and Keith mentioned. Those who came before, made it much easier for us.

One question, Jonny. I assume that you read notation. If so, are you a good sight reader?

[sseow]

Jonny, so wat is the tempo of the Canzonetta del Quartet you play…? Just curious…?!! If u are not sure the tempo u play, how u claim u can play “up to the tempo” ???
Seow
singapore

[Jonny Hotnuts]

The reason I can "claim" to play it to tempo is because I play along with the recording. Not sure what the beat is something like 70 bmp and then goes to cut time in the middle section and back to standard time.
In any case it is the Segovia recording, so if my listed time is not correct listen to the track and figure it out.

And the offer still stands.
Find a place to upload it and I will record the damn thing.
It may have a few mistakes but I can assure you my point will be made.
And it seems to me that if you had your hands on a six half as much as you worry about what others can play maybe you too would be playing Canzonetta, and not really thinking it was such a big deal.

And Ed,
Changed my name a few years ago as part of a promo stunt for the radio station I worked at. I intended to change it back but it just sort of stuck. Maybe someday, but it is what all my friends know me as and is a great way to meet the ladies!
Besides, you have to admit it has a nice ring to it.

NGiorgio:
It all depends on what you consider a good reader.
I can take a song like "Fantasie - Sylvius Leopold Weiss"
And play it from start to finish without stopping. It may not be to tempo and have mistakes but within an hour would have it fairly worked out.
Takes about a week to commit to memory (would be less if I did not play anything else, but I usually work on about 6 songs at a time.) Songs that have complex chords running back to back trip me up a bit and I often change hand positioning from what is recommended (usually to utilize open stings more). There are not too many songs yet that I have found to be very frustrating, with the exceptions of Recuerdos and Sevilla (Sevillanas), funny thing is, those are currently what I am working on!

[Sia]

Jonny,

If you're working on Sevilla, you may want to take a look a video of a this piece performed by Manuel Barrueco, posted in the thread called "See John Williams live ...":

The title: M.Barrueco Live...Plays Albeniz!
Posted by: seow
URL: http://melos.cau.ac.kr/zboard/data/08.asf

[ferraby]

Hi guys.....have been playing on and off for the past 4 years but really got serious last year...so i am still struggling with more complex pieces.Here r my repertoires :

CLASSICAL
Layenda - Albeniz
Tango in D - Albeniz
La Paloma - Sebastian Yradier
Salut d'amor - Elgar
Musetta's Waltz - Puccini
Bourree - J.S Bach
Air in G String - J.S Bach
Nocturne in E minor - Chopin
Humouresque - Dvorak
Violin Concerto - Felix Mandelsson
Sonata in C - Mozart
Romanza - Anon
....and currrently learning Fantasie by Weiss

FLAMENCO
1 soleares
1 gradinas
1 farruca
1 alegrias
....aiming to play fandangos next =D

[Jonny Hotnuts]

Thanks Sia, I will do just that!

[classicalmark]

Sia,
Great clip, thanks. I think Manuel Barrueco often goes overlooked when conversing about the "greats" of modern classic guitar.
Jonny,
There's some good footage of John Williams performing and practicing this piece on "The Seville Concert" video.
Respectfully,
Mark

[pacodelucia]

There are some pretty good guitar players 'round here.
my respects to all flamenco,classical and jazz players.
i love the brazilian music as well
here is my list(kind of a short one)

F.sor variations on a theme by mozart.
Bach prelude bwv 999
Bach gavotte en rondeau (bwv 1006)
H.villa-lobos etude no.1 (not very satisfied about my speed though)
F.tarrega Capricho arabe

that's all i think and i've been playing for almost 5 years.
by the way asturias isaac albeniz it's not very hard ,i can play it almost
(i have a problem with just one chord in 8th postion if i remember well,my pinky doesn't want to go on the 12th fret quick enough).

i don't think it's possible in 7 month to play asturia.

i have decided to play less guitar and learn solfegio.it's more important
for my development as a guitarist(i want to play jazz ).

Still looking for some flamenco methods.

keith ,do u have smth like that and u're willing to share some .
i'm talking about some juan martin ....
i have juan martin's method, but mine is incomplete(poor xerox by the way) and i dont have the audio cassetes.
maybe there is someone who thought to make mp3's from the method,and gifs using a scanner,or better yet a video(don't mind me ,i'm just trying).
just don't ask why i don't buy it.


i have a lot of scores i can scan too.



if someone is willing to trade some scores(though i know it's not right)
mail me at popovici_s@k.ro


cool username ,huh?

[pacodelucia]

god damn it ,i've posted it to the wrong section.

[Jonny Hotnuts]

OK, I am not trying to be a dickhead but I am sick of having to defend what I say.
If you don’t think it is “possible to play Asturias within 7 month” give me your e-mail and I will mail you the damn thing. I will even record the first take and do no post editing. (or any of the songs I have listed)

Not only that but before I had the music to this song I hand transcribed it from Segovia’s recording. I will even email you the hand written manuscript.

BTW:

Never once have I told anyone they were full of s**t.
Not only is it not my way, it is simply not cool.
But because the gauntlet was dropped, if you are having troubles with that cord you are likely like 90% of the other people I have heard say they play Asturias and only know the first 25-30 bars.

So are you going to be so eager to answer the call to arms and submit your own recording of Asturias (Leyenda) for us to hear as well.
And a computer mic will do just fine.

My website domain is now registered.
Soon I will not be forced to email, and who ever want may download my works.
But now this is what I have to do.

So whats it going to be pacodelucia,


Give me your email I will upload tonight.

Here is my email you can send the FULL recording as I will.
jonny_hotnuts@hotmail.com
-OR-
jonnyhotnuts@involved.com

Or are you all talk with no action?

[pacodelucia]

popovici_s@k.ro
i'm not one of those players who can play fisrt 25-30 bars.
i do not know the middle section (which is more simple technically ,i'm not saying it's not beautiful).i know the full speed part.
i'll play the game but in 3 or 4 days (now i'm travelling home).

[Jonny Hotnuts]

check you mail.

[stubthumbs]

this is all i can play in 2 years of playing

Heitor Villa Lobos - Choros #1
Etude #1
Prelude #1,2,5
Fernando Sor - Estudio #2, 20
Francisco Tarrega - Capricho Arabe
Weiss - Passagaille
J.S. Bach - Cello Suite #1
Gavotte I (BWV 995)
Gavotte II en Rondo(BWV 995)
Bouree(BWV 996)
Air on the G String
Ferinando Carulli - Sonata, Op.5

Romance de Amor

(?)Paul Gilbert(?)-Flamengo
Andrew York-Sunburst

i have most of this memorized except passagaille(had it memorized)(forgot some of it), Gavotte II en Rondo, Air on the G String, and Bouree(only remember the first half).

the reason Paul Gilbert is surrounded by ??? is because i downloaded this mp3 online and learned it by ear. i cant find any sheet music for it, so i started writing it out on music(almost done!) since paul gilbert is a contemporary guitarist, im dont think the artist is correct.

i plan to work on either sevilla or granada

[Mikey]

For all of you people who are attacking Jonny Hotnuts for playing Asturias in seven months, your arguments are completely ungrounded. If you've played the piece you will recognize that it really is not very difficult. It sounds hard but the key to mastering it is purely muscle memory. The left hand fingering is easy! The right hand conditioning only takes practice. Asturias was the third classical piece I learned and played it at a Christopher Parkening Masterclass six months after I started working on it. Its much easier than it sounds! Why would you doubt that someone can play it after seven months. Jonny your astounded replies are completely warranted!

Mikey

[stubthumbs]

i agree
ive learned almost all of it(only a couple more measure of the second half)quite some time ago, and i notice that my right hand needs work, heh heh. if i had stuck to the piece when i first started it, i wouldve gotten it down probably in 10-11 months, just guessing. had to put that on hiatus cause of solo ensemble classical guitar for school. heh heh....but yea, in the arrangement i have, i have to stretch my fingers far, but thats it(i think there are arrangements where u dont have to do as much stretching). just need to work on my right hand.

stubthumbs

[ferraby]

I am totally behind Johnny Hotnuts...I learned asturia in a couple of months (still not perfect though)...and i have only been playing classical guitar seriously for a bit more than a year...and for Johnny who has been playing guitar for a large part of his life...he can definately do it..no doubt from my side

[ferraby]

Hey Paco...what is solfegio??......cause i ma kinda interested in Jazz too

[keith]

to the person calling himself paco........

not sure of what you are asking me? "do you have smth like that?" if i know what is being asked, then i can make the decision to share.

ok, gotta lend my support to jonny hotnuts. if you all had read his statement about having a long history of guitar playing, then learning leyenda/asturias is not that big of a deal. i started playing, from rank beginner 4 years ago and picked up leyenda in my 2nd year. it really depends on the motivation, learning curve, willingness to give up parts of one life, etc. etc.

now, to the person calling himself paco................... dude, is that your real name? if it is, cool. if not, why adopt a name when you have flamenco pieces in your rep? and why take a name verbatim? at least the dude in russia who goes by paco de rusia modified slightly.

[keith]

to the person calling himself paco........

not sure of what you are asking me? "do you have smth like that?" if i know what is being asked, then i can make the decision to share.

ok, gotta lend my support to jonny hotnuts. if you all had read his statement about having a long history of guitar playing, then learning leyenda/asturias is not that big of a deal. i started playing, from rank beginner 4 years ago and picked up leyenda in my 2nd year. it really depends on the motivation, learning curve, willingness to give up parts of one life, etc. etc.

now, to the person calling himself paco................... dude, is that your real name? if it is, cool. if not, why adopt a name when you have NO flamenco pieces in your rep? and why take a name verbatim? at least the dude in russia who goes by paco de rusia modified slightly.

[pacodelucia]

u're right keith ,about my username maybe i'll change it .
i just didn't know what to expect about this forum ,i wrote in the blanks
pacodelucia just for fun ,thinking that it's gotta be someone who already has that username .
Now i understand that this forum is very different than let's
say www.guitar.com acoustic guitar forum ,where the discution rarely has a topic like flamenco or classical guitar .in that forum nobody would have
noticed such a username(maybe a couple,at least this is my opinion).

Once again i apologize for this bold name.

johnny hotnuts,i have listened your mp3.
u're good (i'm talking about the technical part ,the using of pi pm pattern,in the end u have some legato's which are fast for 7 months of classical guitar
).
what do i think?
i think u must have more than 7 months since u first played a guitar
maybe u have 7 months since u play classical guitar.

say that i'm in denial phase.

as for the interpretation ,u know u didn't have it memorised well .

the piece is starting with a pattern pi pm which u have it and u doit well,the hard part is when the piece is switching to triolets (pattern pim ) i can hear
it in your mp3 .that is the hard part the switching between patterns.
to do that u should be more quick in catching chords .
i'm very impressed as i said about your legato's in the end(there is nothing like it in asturia,but i'm still impressed by your speed)

i'll post my mp3 in a day or two.

[keith]

paco dude: what were you originally asking me in your first post?

[pacodelucia]

hey keith wanna talk now ?u can find me on yahoo messenger
send a mail to popovici_s@k.ro and i'll give u my username on yahoo
so u can add it to your friends list.
do nor ask me to post my username on the yahoo,u'll know why when u'll
know it.

[Jonny Hotnuts]

Paco in subsequent post it mentions that I have played guitar for some time longer than 7 months.
The question was not if I played it as well as Segovia, but merely if I played it.
And while you are correct that there is roughness betwixt the changes, I stepped up the tempo considerably faster than any recording I have heard a “master” do because of my limited amount of attachment space.

Again this was done cold, in one take without consideration for being perfect, only to make a point.
If I slowed it to a normal tempo I can promise my transitions would be smoother, maybe not perfect but definitely better.
The improved free time cadenza at the end was added for nothing more than to amuse myself.
My point was made.

It is not that you doubted me that is an issue. But maybe in the future instead of saying I am full of “S”, maybe you could say something on the lines of “I would like to hear a recording of you playing it.” This way I would not think you were being an a-hole.

I just wanted to thank everyone for supporting me in the last few post.
Good to know there are friends out there.
It is even better to prove to someone who doubts your word that maybe you really do what you claim.

So does anyone else think there are any other songs on my list that I can not play?
I might actually take some time with the next recording.

[Evil laugh heard from a distance]

Mua, ha, ha, ha, ha, haaaaaaaaaaaaa……….

Everyones best friend....

Jonny f-ing Hotnuts.

:)

[classicalmark]

Jonny,
Lets see "Lagrima". :lol:
Really now; I would'nt want to argue with someone who has a name like that :shock:.
Also in defense of Jonny I had an easier time with "Asturias" than "Recuerdos de la Alhmbra", much easier.
Respectfully,
Mark

[edwardcav]

You guys mentioned that Prelude from the Cello Suite # 1 by JS Bach was in your repertiore.

Check this thread out:

http://4.18.36.7/gsiforum/viewtopic.php?t=349

tell me your thoughts.

[NGiorgio]

Edwardcav:

An extremely talented young lady. I thoroughly enjoyed the Bach Prelude. I play a much more traditional transcription. I wonder whose transcription she played. Does anyone know?

[Jonny Hotnuts]

As with NGiorgio, I too play the "traditional transcription". I had heard this version before and fooled around with adding the additional bass notes, but stopped to concentrate on learning songs I already have good transcriptions too, thinking someone would have the music and would learn this version if I ever found it. There is not a huge difference in the way I play it, but I think the added bass notes complement the song and likely Bach would have added if the cello would be able to support the extra notes.

I think now however I will finish the transcription if no one else has it lying around or knows where it can be found.



BTW Edwardcav,
I hear Redbacks and Funnels love hiding in sound holes.
Now THat is funny!

:twisted:

-JH

[classicalmark]

Greetings friends,
This young lady truly is amazing; I’d really like more information about her.
If I’m not mistaking it sounds like the same transcription that Segovia and Parkening use.
Respectfully,
Mark

[bob]

You list your accomplishments and say you have been playing classical for 7 months. That is amazing. What is your music background?

[Jonny Hotnuts]

Started on piano at 10ish (about 2 years)

Started on guitar around 15 after seeing a video of Randy Rhoads (in this video [crazy train] they showed close up shots of Randy’s hands, I realized at this moment that he had 5 fingers on each hand as do I, therefore there was nothing magical about what he was doing to make this sound.) It may sound bizarre but it was this foundation of believing that there was nothing I was not capable of playing that was the motivation for the hours of practice. Within about 2-3 years I had learned the entire “Tribute to Randy Rhoads” album, including “Dee” the first classical song I ever played.

Started teaching guitar at 19 (on and off for about 5 years)

Worked at Peavey Electronics in the guitar division, doing nearly every job in the division. About 3+ years.
Built thousands of guitars.

Worked as a session guitarist for several studios in Mississippi.
Recorded on many independent albums (mostly country and gospel)
Played in many garage bands of all types.
Started playing classical after getting board with Vai, Sach and Malmsteen.
100% self taught.
29 years old now.

[Jonny Hotnuts]

BTW:
I also learned

Bach: Prelude from Lute Suite no 4 (BWV 1006a) (after seeing video of JW playing it, I had to learn it. Really not all that difficult and a joy to play)

ANd

Torroba Castles Of Spain; V. Alcaniz (Festiva)
Should be on everyones playlist!

[classicalmark]

Impressive Jonny,
I think a lot of guitarist began getting curious about the classical guitar from those artists you've cited.
Malmstien especially makes no secret of his fondness for Bach and Paganini as he’s incorporated some of their lines directly into his compositions.
I’ve been a little hesitant to contribute this thread because so much of what I play depends on the particular venue: performance recitals, weddings or the coffee house-bookstore type setting.
I’ll try to compile something and post it soon.
Respectfully,
Mark

[Paddy]

Well Now!

I have been playing for thirty years and I have just recently learned Twinkle Twinkle! Isn't that good! I can also do a good version of Happy Birthday.

When I'm drunk I also attempt - When The Saints Go Marching In!

How Good Am I?

Why doesn't everybody on this thread stop blowing their own trumpets?

Be honest - nobody really cares what you can or can't play in tempo - or otherwise!

Move onto a more important topic than yourselves!

My son could play 12 chords at age 5 - so what!?????

Just cos someone can do it quicker than others doesn't make them good - plus the fact u only have their word for it!

I know this sounds hard 2 believe but I only started Classical Guitar 4 minutes ago and I can play (Spanish) Romance and after 15 minutes my Tremolo was fantastic. But it IS true - HONEST!

[Jonny Hotnuts]

The topic was what was in your song list. Anything else I wrote was because I was questioned. I did not intend to write anymore but if asked I will reply. If you feel ashamed because you have been playing longer and someone else has learned more than you, this is fine you most certainly do not have to list you repertoire. And if you feel it is me “bragging” that is fine too. I attribute both to the fact that you were likely drunk when you wrote it.

And I am very glad you are able to make a "living" by playing birthday songs and whatnot, I own my own business and earned 1.77 million last year, purchased 3 houses and 7 guitars. I do not intend to make you feel badly but if you are that threaten by me learning these songs I can only imagine how it makes you feel to know I in my late 20’s earned more money in one year that you will in your entire live.

Or maybe we should post a picture of our significant others, once again I assure you would be feeling badly.


Now that is “blowing my own horn”

:lol:
:lol:
:lol:

[keith]

i think a new thread is in order.

hey paddy: maybe you should read the other folks' replies and get a feel for how folks have been interacting on the forum.

hey jonny, i know someone who ownes a couple of hippner guitars and i am sure he would be happy to hear from you. l left my e-mail address in the discussion about hippner.

[thaddeusb]

hey everyone,
this is my first post so here it goes.

memorized:

Villa-Lobos-Choro Tipico, Gavotta Choro, Etude No 8, Prelude No 1,
Prelude No 5

Brower- Preludes 6 & 8

Barrios- Julia Florida, Vals Op 8 no 4

Tarrega- Capricho Arabe, lagrima, adelita

not memorized(but learned):

Villa Lobos-Mazurka Choro, Scottish Choro, Etude No 3

Bach- Prelude(in a minor), 1st Lute suite: Prelude


I am currently working on the presto to the first lute suite and the Fantasia para un Gentilhombre(Im on the third movement)

[guitarz11]

Hey KEELOR, you play some of the same ones I do. Email me.
jnrdrgz at hotmail.
Juan

[Walter]

heheh funniest thread I've read.. and Paddy.. AMEN! no one cares what you can play or not, but I will tell you if anyone here is that much better than the rest, I'd advice them to start looking for an agent because you're sure to make yourself some money selling millions of records!! oh and JH maybe if you would have not mentioned that you've only played for 7 months, it would have been just a repertoire thread but come on, you had to mention how little time you have playing CG didn't you :wink: hehe talk about being egocentrical, oh yeah, and by your last post, it shows you're _only_ 29..

oh and btw, you're not better than everyone else.. I am :wink:

sarcasm included people

[rumin]

hello everyone! :D Glad to see your playlists!

[jay]

hey johnny have you uploaded some of your songs yet?
i believe it's possible that you can play them but i'd like to hear how you sound

[Jonny Hotnuts]

Once my website was up I set a goal to record one song per week and have held true to that goal with the exception of last week while I was busy with work projects but here is what I have uploaded, and hopefully will get 2 done this week time permited.

http://www.jonnyhotnuts.com/music.html

[Yuk]

Here's my list:

Bach - Prelude from Lute Suite no.1
Coste - La Source du Lyson
Martin - Quatre Pieces Breves
Mertz - Fantasie Hongroise
Piazzolla - Verano Porteno, Milonga del Angel
Rodrigo: Invocacion y danza
Villa-Lobos - Etudes no.3, 4, 5, 11, 12

Currently working on:
Castelnuovo-Tedesco - Concerto no.1
D'Angelo - Due Canzoni Lidie
Piazzolla - Verano Porteno, Muerte del Angel
Bach - the rest of Lute Suite no.1, esp. Gigue

[kosta]

I've seen some nice lists here, so here's what I'm playing at the moment:

Bach: Suite for lute no. 1 in e minor
Sor: Variations on La Folia and Menuet; Marlborough Suite
Lobos: Etude no. 1 and no. 8; Prelude no. 1 in e minor
Fumic: Nocturno
De Narvaes: Guardame Las Vacas (diferencias)
Tarrega: Recuerdos De La Alhambra

All of them by heart, except Marlborough, and there's more :wink:

Regards, Kosta

[rumin]

hi everyone. :D

[Eptiger]

I'm still just a student, so here's some of what I've learned more recently:

Traditional Spanish Ballad
Sevillanas
Estudio in E - Tarrega
Etude No. 1 - Villa-Lobos
Study in A Minor #3 - Carcassi
Study in A Minor $7 - Carcassi
El Negrito (Vals No. 1) - Lauro
Sounds of Bells - Joao Guimaraes (I always forget the correct spelling)
Traditional Malaguena

and next up I'm working on La Paloma!

Eptiger

[marcooo]

i've been playing for 2 years now after playing 7 years of violin, i memorize all my pieces thouroughly (it's a habit from playing 7 years suzuki method).

i just totally redid my tequnique so that each piece i play i play perfectly without any of those "trouble spots" no weak trills(espiecialy right hand ones), uneven scales etc.

here's what i've learned in the past 2 weeks

de visee: prelude suite in a
bach: sarabande partita bwv 1002
tarrega: marieta
villa lobos: prelude no. 1

these are the perfected ones i'm in the process of learning all the preludes and etudes of villa lobos and i also want to learn all the bach lute works but those will take time to get all the ornements figured out and phrasing etc...

[adamcinho]

Jonny hotnuts,

I think you have played at least year or two.
Because I've been playing for 4 months and I started from very bottom (It took me 4 months to read music-- basic one) and I can play Malarguana, Lagrima, Romance, Carousel, and some of etudes from Carcassi....

Dude, you better be kidding about playing guitar for a six months... That is impossible to accomplish all the songs that you mentioned....

either you already knew how to read the music or either you are @#$#@$#@ alien.

[cdikland]

Jonny hotnuts,
I think you have played at least year or two.
Try 14 years. Sheesh... How often does this have to be repeated in this thread. :shock: Maybe if we shout???? :o
I HAVE BEEN PLAYING GUITAR FROM 15 (29 NOW), STARTED CLASSICAL BEACUSE I WAS BOARD WITH VAI AND SATCH. PRACTICE NO LESS THAN 2 HOURS PER NIGHT AND CONCENTRATE ON LEARNING SONGS.

[edwardcav]

Lay off Jonny

[Jonny Hotnuts]

THanks Ed and cdikland but being that this thread is 8 pages long I can understand why someone did not read the entire thing, but I do appreciate the support.


adamcinho, funny thing is that this post must be about 5-6 months old now, meaning that I have been playing classical for a year now. I have not updated the songs that I have learned but must also say that there are a few that I have listed that I can would not be able to play without a few nights of going over them again to iron out any rough spots.

I have always found it easy to memorize songs but I am very persistent and work very hard at it.

And while I have not updated my website in about 5 weeks (it is because I am learning a few very difficult songs and just finished learning and tabbing "Prelude from Lute Suite no 4 (BWV 1006a)" [available at the weed index of classical guitar tabs:
http://alt.venus.co.uk/weed/music/classtab/jsb1006p.txt ]
but here are a few songs that I have uploaded, but please note that most of the songs I recorded I had only known for a night or two so they may not be as smooth as Segovia.) http://www.jonnyhotnuts.com/music.html

[rumin]

im also looking for bellinati pieces. would you like to share your pieces with me? :D
here's my email ad: rmanayan@yahoo.com

[rumin]

hi everyone. here's an updateof the list of what i play:

J. Morel - Danza Brasilera
Dyens - Tango en Skai
Piazzolla - La muerte del Angel
Adios Nonino
Milonga del Angel
Triunfal
Gardel - El dia que me quieras arr. victor villadangos
Adios muchachos arr. Dyens
Lauro - Andreina
Vals Criollo
Angostura
Carora
Villa-lobos - Choros No. 1
Dilermano Reiss - Se Ela Perguntar
Joao Pernambuco - Sons de carrilhoes
Working on: Invierno Porteno arr. by Sergio Assad
Prelude BWV 997
BWV 998 and Lute Suite No.1