HOTNUTS, WHERE ART THOU HOTNUTS?

[keith]

so cucumber for life claims not to be jonny hotnuts? well if this is the case, the only thing i can say is:

I WANT TO USE AN ELEPHANT IVORY(POST BAN) NUT AND SADDLE ON A GUITAR WITH BRAZILLIAN ROSEWOOD (POST BAN) USING CAT CUT STRINGS. AND FOLKS, IT TOOK ME 2 WEEKS TO LEARN BACH'S CHACONNE SO THERE. :P

ANY LOW LIFE WANNA CHALLENGE ME ON THIS?

[Beumont_suite]

IT TOOK ME 2 WEEKS TO LEARN BACH'S CHACONNE SO THERE. :P


Lazyass :)

[keith]

well a lot of that 2 week period i was hunting elephants and chopping down trees in s. america.

[Pepe Vergara]

I have always been interesting in knowing how South American elephants look like. Do you have a picture of any one of them?

[cdikland]

I have always been interesting in knowing how South American elephants look like. Do you have a picture of any one of them?
Actually, the South American elephant is thought to be extinct. Once abundant, these creatures made their home by burrowing underneath brazilian rosewood trees. Unfortunately, these burrows caused significant damage to the roots of these trees and eventually killed them. To deal with these pesky creatures, the Martin and Ramirez companies joined forces and hired newfoundland seal hunters to eraticate them. They believed they were successful. Not so... On his last trip into the S. American jungle, Jimmy Hardnuts captured this amazing image on his Brune digital camera. Check it out here: http://www.ckdsolutions.com/se.jpg

[keith]

hey pepe: about 100 years ago 2 brothers named wright invented the airplane. along the way, the airplane evolved into a jet. and today, one can hunt elephants in africa and then fly to south america to chop down rosewood trees and do so in the same day. but i digress. actually i was hunting elephants at the zoo in rio and then hired some locals to boat me up the amazon where we slashed and burned 100 acres of trees to get that one gigantic brazillian rosewood tree. :wink:

[absmiths]

Check it out here: http://www.ckdsolutions.com/se.jpg

That is absolutely hilarious. Did I miss something here? This smacks of an inside joke and I feel I am on the outside.

[NGiorgio]

All you gotta do is go back and read some of Jonny Hotnuts posts.

[absmiths]

I have read many of them, and familiar with him as a user - I just thought something specific might have happened recently to bring this on. I actually participated in the "I am going to learn the simple Chaconne" discussion.

[cdikland]

Did I miss something here? This smacks of an inside joke and I feel I am on the outside.
:twisted: Not really. trust me ya didnt. Ok, if you insist...

Go to http://forum.guitarsalon.com/search.php and search for "Ivory Saddles and nuts"

[keith]

ok folks, here is the scoop: there was/is a forum member named jonny hotnuts (he says it is his real name). jonny was/is a colorful person who often spoke his mind without editing it to be p.c., etc. the catgut is in reference to a thread earlier this year about catgut strings. the brazillian rosewood is mine in the spirit of hotnuts. and the chaconne is, as i understand it, a difficult piece and is in referene to jonny reporting he learned leyenda very quickly--a lot of folks pooh-poohed him even though he clearly mentioned he had been playing rock and roll guitar for many years.

jonny used the old picture of segovia and when it popped up recently we thought he had given up his hiatus and returned to the forum.

[Scott]

Seems if I remember right JH said he was a contractor -- I know those guys burn every available hour May-Sept. It has been pretty mellow w/o him though... :roll: no cutting heads, gaunlets dropped, etc. Hope he returns as the dude cracks me up.

[ToddK]

HMMM, actually, in one of his last threads, before
he disappeared, some people, including myself,
gave him some possibly discouraging criticisms on a piece he posted.

Like telling him he needs to first obtain a clean
freestroke. I think i mentioned that his Vals no3,
was very bad, and he shouldnt even try to play
things at that level, at least not yet.
Harsh? i dont know, i think it would be unfair
to him, to just say, "hey, yeah, sounds great"
When he clearly needs instruction. Jonny's been playing
for a long time, and the last thing he wants to hear is,
" you need lessons man!"
Then again, i didnt really know his personality enough
to know if he's thin skinned enough to be driven away by
a few critiques.
Personally, when people tell me i suck, it makes
me want to practice that much more, and study more
intensly. Hopefully, that's what Jonny's doing right now.:)
Go jonny go, go go!
Jonny be good! (with more practice)
ToddK

[Braeburn]

It is summertime, and people being MIA is to be expected.

[Beumont_suite]

When he gets back from holidays and reads this thread he's gonna be pissed.

[NGiorgio]

Just went to JH's website. Nothing new in the way of music shows up. He is either very busy making money or having trouble with RdlA.

Come on JH, brighten things up for us.

[cdikland]

What I gather is that he has given up guitar and taken up banjo. Back in the studio recording for this film clip. Check it out:

http://www.boreme.com/bm/JUL04/*-/f_this_land/fr.htm

[NGiorgio]

That is funny. Maybe funnier than JH himself .....

[Sandra]

He was probably the closest thing to a resident spammer this forum had, and I mean that in only the nicest way. :) He sparked a lot of good conversation.

[edwardcav]

He was a proliffic poster who kept up with me kieth and ngiorgio and was with us from the start.

I too miss Jonny Hotnuts and I miss standing up for him :(

come back Mr. H

[Faya]

He's a funny dude!!!

I really enjoyed reading his posts.

[absmiths]

This thread is becoming like an epitaph.

"Oh Jonny, I hardly knew ye!"

[MSG]

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[justinG]

well...that was a bit harsh....

[NLong]

wow... it was. Maybe there needs to be an elitist forum for those who have cashed in their social skills and politeness to obtain such a superb level of playing. Such that mere mortals should not be allowed to touch the sacred instrument, let alone post anything on a forum about it. Blasphemy!

From now on, you non-super-elite-uber guitarists are not allowed to post anything without answering to the elitists, for it is no longer a hobby or an enjoyable activity, it is a worldwide competition from your homes! :wink:

Beginners and intermediates live in FEAR! :twisted:

[Rex]

OH YEAH? Well, right after I log off I'm gonna play the theme from the Flintstones.....WITH A PICK! And you can't stop me. HA HA HA.

I'll never be a great guitarist, but I sure do enjoy playing. I imagine there are hundreds of Yamahas sold for every handmade concert instrument, so I have plenty of company. The folks I have played for seem to enjoy the music also because I get invited back.

[cdikland]

well...that was a bit harsh....
Dont be too hard on him. Based on his posts it is obvious to me that he is just a kid and a Mostly Stupid Guy.

[Jonny Hotnuts]

Odd that this post was dragged up again.

I will make no apologies for the recordings on my site, and agree that they are far from perfect and now when I listen to them I too cringe.
But please note that they were recorded about 2 years ago and only after I had converted to CG for a few months and recorded immediately after learning the tunes (about a week each to learn).
At the time I did not know that nails were used and they were played “all flesh”.
I also did not know that Bach music had to conform to strict timing regiments and a discussion about interpretation and timing was discussed here on this forum.
The tunes were also recorded originally to test new recording equipment and nothing more.

I have learned much sense then, and have made an attempt to not be so inflammatory. I must admit however that when someone looses control and gets upset by something I say I have a laugh or two about it.

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I will be updating my site when I have time and I promise that the new material will be infinitely better.

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[cdikland]

So if you can do better then lets see it, if you are unwilling or unable then your opinion means nothing.
Hehehehe, that's telling him..........
:evil: :twisted: :evil: :twisted: I think we scared him away though :D

[Rex]

Life is like a football game. There are some people running around, getting banged up, making mistakes, but they are actually in the game. Then there are all those others who sit and comment on how the players could have done better. I don't have an opinion about Jonny. I'm one of those who goes out there and plays, and even makes some mistakes. Constructive comments are great, even critical ones, as long as the objective is to pass along knowledge. It's about art, not personalities. Art is often human, i.e. it is rarely perfect. If we want perfection we could throw away our guitars and pop in CDs that have been edited in studios.

[Pepe Vergara]

[quote=Pepe Vergara] .. . On his last trip into the S. American jungle, Jimmy Hardnuts captured this amazing image on his Brune digital camera. Check it out here: http://www.ckdsolutions.com/se.jpg
I missed this for almost one year!! I think Ihave seen this creature.

http://www.ckdsolutions.com/se.jpg

[cdikland]

Ah yes... The S American rabbiphant cousin to the N American Sealiboo

http://www.ckdsolutions.com/sealephant.gif

Vanquished to the great white north for being too critical of others. Notice how its ivory tusks, long removed by one unnamed :evil: luthier (http://www.acenca.org/index2_files/image320.jpg) :twisted: , have been replaced with majestic antlers. Ah the adaptibility of nature.

[Pepe Vergara]

:lol: :oops: :P 8) :( :) :? :shock: :roll:

[MSG]

JH, i'm not back tracking here, because you may have potential, but you could be a good classical guitarist with some fair amount of work. Classical guitar is NOT easy, by any means. I think it's a lot easier to play Eddie Van Halen, Alvin Lee, Vaughn, Jimi Hendrix (although, his stuff wasn't ever really technically challenging), Satriani than classical guitar considering sloppy playing is often hidden by this over driven distortion noise. I can do a semi quaver scale at 184 bpm on an electric guitar with distortion pedals and make it sound like any other rock guitarist, but take off the effects, and I sound sloppy. Malmsteem has said many times before that he cannot play nylon guitar very well at all because he staccatos through out the entire piece. This is very true, and I can dig up the articles somewhere. I play both electric guitar, jazz guitar, and classical. I would say, by far, classical is the hardest, and flamenco being just as hard, maybe harder. The reason isn't for pure speed. If you want pure speed in scales, you should just let a computer do it via midi since it will do a much better job than any human can ever do. The reason is as classical guitarist, we need to be concerned with the way every note is played. We need to be concerned about accents, rhythms, tonal seperation, colors, vibrato, rubato, dynamics, etc... Any guitarist can pick up a piece by Bach, and play it note for note without paying attention to the underlying music, but that's what seperates the men from the boys. Segovia had one of the worst tremelo techniques out of all the pro's: the dude galloped like horses stampeding on the open plains, but he was amazing cause he added accents EVERYWHERE. It's effing beautiful to hear him play, even though his technique was less than perfect there. That's why I keep playing the same thing over and over again, even though I have it nailed note for note, rhythm for rhythm, perfect on the tempo of a metronome, because I am trying to find ways of making the piece more musical.

If you want to know how it's done, get a professional classical guitarist with good credentials, and take lessons. There's one guy on here that I was impressed with so far, even though his tempo was off in the mid section of the Prelude 1 of Villa Lobos, and his Capricho Arabe was a little slower than i'd like it -- can't blame him, after a 15 year hiatus, even Segovia would be muddy. He had dynamic control, very CLEAN articulation (his slurs were done real nicely), accents on the meter, tone seperation from melody, chord, and bass, and even colored some of his notes by playing ponticello. THAT'S music. And it was all played really clean. Even though some of the tempo was slowed down to make up for lost speed, the pieces were played in time. That's musicianship right there. That's talent.

Anyways, I hope you do become good at the classical guitar. Really, I do. As for me putting up my own stuff? Nah, never. I can't stand to listen to myself play classical guitar. I've recorded, but it just depresses me. I'm frustrated with my classical guitar technique. I'm thinking about picking up electric guitar again, because I've listened to my recordings and it just makes me depressed.




Odd that this post was dragged up again.

I will make no apologies for the recordings on my site, and agree that they are far from perfect and now when I listen to them I too cringe.
But please note that they were recorded about 2 years ago and only after I had converted to CG for a few months and recorded immediately after learning the tunes (about a week each to learn).
At the time I did not know that nails were used and they were played “all flesh”.
I also did not know that Bach music had to conform to strict timing regiments and a discussion about interpretation and timing was discussed here on this forum.
The tunes were also recorded originally to test new recording equipment and nothing more.

I have learned much sense then, and have made an attempt to not be so inflammatory. I must admit however that when someone looses control and gets upset by something I say I have a laugh or two about it.

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So if you can do better then lets see it, if you are unwilling or unable then your opinion means nothing.

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[Libre]

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Originally posted by MSG:

"Anyways, I hope you do become good at the classical guitar. Really, I do. As for me putting up my own s**t? Nah, never. I can't stand to listen to myself play classical guitar. I've recorded, but it just depresses me. I'm frustrated with my classical guitar technique. I'm thinking about picking up electric guitar again, because I've listened to my recordings and it just makes me depressed."
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Oh, I get it MSG - forgive me, I misunderstood you. From your critique of me, and Hotnuts, and everyone else that has posted their playing here, it sounded like you actually played the instrument and knew something about it, and had some familiarity with the problems of playing the repertoire yourself. I mean, from the way you were talking, you sounded like you had some authority and experience as though you were a master of the instrument yourself like, say Paul Galbraith or Chris Parkening, and not just someone that listened to others do what they can't do themselves, and then proclaim them to be horrible, even though they are like 100 times better at the instrument then you will ever be.
Does that about sum it up?

[Todd]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Nice Libre, that definately does sum it up. :)

If you're gonna talk it, ya gotta walk it.

I've been accused of harsh critiques here as well.
But at the very least, i practice my butt off everyday,
and my vids and mp3's are posted all over.
So at least one has the oppurtunity to blast
a critique right back at me. :oops:


TK

[bruno]

Touché!!!

[MSG]

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Originally posted by MSG:

"Anyways, I hope you do become good at the classical guitar. Really, I do. As for me putting up my own s**t? Nah, never. I can't stand to listen to myself play classical guitar. I've recorded, but it just depresses me. I'm frustrated with my classical guitar technique. I'm thinking about picking up electric guitar again, because I've listened to my recordings and it just makes me depressed."
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Oh, I get it MSG - forgive me, I misunderstood you. From your critique of me, and Hotnuts, and everyone else that has posted their playing here, it sounded like you actually played the instrument and knew something about it, and had some familiarity with the problems of playing the repertoire yourself. I mean, from the way you were talking, you sounded like you had some authority and experience as though you were a master of the instrument yourself like, say Paul Galbraith or Chris Parkening, and not just someone that listened to others do what they can't do themselves, and then proclaim them to be horrible, even though they are like 100 times better at the instrument then you will ever be.
Does that about sum it up?

[BigMac5]

I liked the forum better when there were less snobs posting! :x

[Libre]

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Oh, if you think you're getting under my skin, you misunderstand me bigtime. I can take a lot - I've survived many disasters - I'll bet you I've been through more than you can imagine, and still keep going. I've taken a lot worse than being told I have no talent from somebody that admits they don't know which end of a guitar is which. We New Yorkers may have tough skins, but we don't stand idly by while someone shoots spitballs at us.

[tanolonco]

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[JerryZ]

Well, I’ve been away for a while. The truth is I dismissed myself of the need to oversee human decency here. Boy was I wrong.

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Libre (Marc, if I may be so bold), I’m impressed with your music. I would never criticize anyone as talented as you. Well, unless you asked and I was close enough to your amazing level of skill that what I offered was of any value to you. Even then, there’s not much I could offer to help you – you seem to have a pretty good handle on it already. I’m a good guitarist (at least that’s what everyone tells me), but Libre, you are much much much better than I could ever hope to be. Thanks for sharing.

[Libre]

Hey Guys -
Thanks for lending a hand here.

tanolonco - excellent analogy! ROTFL!

JerryZ- I've been wondering if you were still around, and I'm glad you made an appearance. Not just because of what you said (greatly appreciated none-the-less).

[MSG]

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[rdubb]

Its obvious now that MSG is just trying to start flame wars.

I've had to bite my lip not to take the bait believe me.

Its like when you're older brother use to screw with you just to get a response. If you ignored him he got frustrated and left you alone.

[cdikland]

Its like when you're older brother use to screw with you just to get a response. If you ignored him he got frustrated and left you alone.

except in this case I am pretty sure it is the :evil: KID :evil: brother :D

[Libre]

Tanolonco, it's good to hear folks every now and again shoot their mouths off about something they have no idea about. Here's an analogy: YOU. Go home, boy. You don't know me. You don't know if I can play or not.
That's not an analogy.

[JerryZ]

Libre,

Hi! Yep, still trolling around. For the most part I’ve left this forum alone. You guys have a pretty respectable gang of regulars here that do a good job of quieting the trouble makers. I'm one of those people, the trouble makers that is, but I prefer to make trouble in a different way. Ultimately our (you, the gang here and me) desire is a peaceful place to retreat at the end of a good or bad day and share a part of our life with others we couldn’t have 10 years ago. There are probably a lot of late beginners and intermediate level players that would love to post their work for others to evaluate and lend helpful advice. With head hunters and cyber-bullies running around demoralizing the good intentions of people, how can anyone truly feel comfortable doing that? Anyway, I love to stir things up…as long as it’s for the RIGHT reason. I think human kindness is a worthy cause.

[tanolonco]

Hey mono sodium glutamate: "YOU. Go home boy" What is this, a 3rd rate attempt at being a gangster wanna be? Are you thinking of giving up the guitar to scratch records?

As to your playing ability, you were the one who made multiple statements that indeed suggests you are "nylon string challenged". You stated that listening to yourself makes you depressed. You stated you cannot stand to listen to yourself. You stated you were frustrated with classical music and want to play electric guitar, a style you purport to be easier than classical guitar.

The above would not have been drawn into any discussion EXCEPT that you shot your mouth off about others and did so in a disparaging manner. If you notice folks were pleasant to you before you laid into JHN. Once you did that, folks responded in kind. This is the issue folks are trying to point out to you:

[Jonny Hotnuts]

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I suggest that everyone just ignore his crap and not reply to any of his postings.

[MSG]

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[Dave Tate]

Sorry guys, this thread has to be locked - the aggresion here has become utterly ridiculous. Please remember that this is an online forum, not a boxing ring.

Thanks,
Dave