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thraex
08-22-2006, 12:14 PM
Folio,
I didn't see your question before, and a simple ja oder nein :) probably would not do it.
Do you have his Sonatas and Partitas booklet?
There he writes on Segovia's and later arrangements of Bach's music:
for the Sonatas..
"the versions reorder the precise structural proportions of the work, and the balanced and brilliant economy of the barest essentials is lost.The present transcription contains every note of the original and works exclusively with the material provided by Bach."

for the partitas..
"In my arrangement technique I have continued along the path on which I set out in the sonatas and thus refrained from tinkering with one of the most highly praised masterpieces of music history. After all, why should I second-guess the composer?"

He later admits to do some octave doublings at most in the Ciaccona.

It is highly personal, I think, that is FB's approach, but as an artist or interpreter, you must follow what your culture and ear dictates, that is the so called freedom he gives us when transcribing..

But if you read the books by Helga Thoene
-Ciaccona Tanz oder Tombeau
-Sonata A-moll Ein wortlose Passion

She desciphered the gematrical meanings of the whole Sonatas and Partitas, I was in a conference on this books last year, and someone asked the same question as yours. The answer was:
these are analitycal results, but at one point music is absolute and if your instrument demands changes and additions, you are on your own and should follow your conscience and knowledge.

But certainly there is a colossal numerical-symbologic architecture that gets unbalanced when changing even a note. In my case, I would follow the not-daring to add anything approach..but the daring one can be at least as valid if well done by a good musician.

From what I have observed and talked with FB, he is a very direct to the point person, but he goes to extreme pains to accomplish what his musical ethics demand (and demand us his disciples, much to our own share of pain)

Nothing is simple with Bach :) but hoepfully we can play it with such simplicity that his true musical discourse is brought to surface.

Folio
08-22-2006, 01:59 PM
Thraex,

Thanks for answering. I was working off the 2000 interview in Classical Guitar magazine and a copy :oops: of the Bach cd. In the interview he states "I could not, and must not, add a single note of my own" but was unclear if that pertained to just the sonatas or the partitas as well. It is hard for me to tell exactly what he is doing from listening, but noticed there did seem to something added. It's certainly brilliant work.

I've tried to quit playing Bach many times. My motto used to be "Life is short, play Lauro." But it all comes back to JSB, in the end.

thraex
08-22-2006, 02:23 PM
You are most welcome.
I have to confess I have not listened much to his partitas CD, yet. Early this year when I told him I wanted all his CD's he forgot the Bach and Castelnuovo ones the first time around. Next lesson I reminded him, and he said "which ones are you missing?" S&P and Caprichos...he said: "ahh, you must have them they are very important" hehe
The second CD of the caprichos, specially the 3rd volume I think is Frank's most outstanding playing, his lasting legacy, it is SO good, that scares me.
2 Weeks ago we were in Italy, where he played a concert, it was my first time seeing him in concert WOW he is a completeley different guitarist, so deep, perfect and amazing sound. The recital ended with the whole second partita (Ciaccona). But for me the best piece was my favourite Sor (i played it) Second grand Sonata op.25 in Cminor, the best Sor ever!

"...play Lauro.." not easy task either, is a bit like Bach in Venezuelan dialectics! :) I have never played Lauro, just read through some of his music, and it is really top quality. BTW I have not played Bach the last 2 years! shame on me!! :oops:
But I feel the urge now, so after all concerts, I will start with the old JSB!

nylon6
08-22-2006, 05:03 PM
I just sampled FB's 24 Caprichos compared to Lily Ashfar's--she's a joke compared to him! Yamashita certainly plays them with fire, but his tone suffers. I'll be ordering FB's CD and his Bach Sonatas/Partitas soon.