This vietnamese boy is amazing

[jtran_95136]

I just found this on Youtube web site.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qkykSrwd-E
I think he maybe around 13 yrs old.
--JT

[jtran_95136]

Also this one too. Man, these people are amazing...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDztEnMlzlM

And this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F__ZttPA1yw

--JT

[thedrizzle]

anybody know what piece this is? its pretty cool.

[Great Googly Moogly]

anybody know what piece this is? its pretty cool.The Drizzle should click here: http://forum.guitarsalon.com/viewtopic.php?t=4057

[thedrizzle]

ah-ha. thanks man!

[rdubb]

there's gonna be more of this where that came from, worldwide.

Guitar pedagodgy is now arriving at the level of violin and piano.

If you've noticed there are countless violinists and pianists that can play fast, clean, and musically.

Really good guitarists up until about 10 years ago have had the luxury of being a rather elite breed, but now that kids are being tought with sound pedagogical principles, this is pretty much over.

(still though....there's pretty much no market for high level CG players, except for _those_ names, and even they have to work it.)

[daniel711]

Well, I hate to spoil the party here, but I'm not terribly moved. The sound he makes is not pretty at all. Maybe I'm being naive - is the composition meant to be harsh, or very raspy? Perhaps. Stylistically, this guy would probably make a good sitar player. I really have no clue, based on that performance, whether this kid could do any justice to Bach. Maybe he could, but it's not evident in his technique or musicality. Not to take everything away from him, he's definitely got some kind of chops, but they're not my cup of tea by a long shot. Before I could rave about him I'd need to see him play pianissimo, and slowly. I'd need to hear his tone palette. He would need to do alot more than fire away like a machine gun.

How about that thumb nail!!?? That thing is scary!! How would you like to walk around with that> :shock:

[PedroO]

Jtran: He is not kid. He is probably 19 or 20. Guy over there look younger. "Kids" like that were shooting at us in Vietman. I think the guitar has a bad sound, and he may have some dexterity, but not out of this world/ Joe#1 very good compared to this guy.

[vabbb]

I just saw Eric Clapton's Unplugged dvd and he was using a classical. We all know he is the man when it comes to the blues, however I thought his tone was aweful, very "dirty", lots of twang and fret slaps. But maybe that's how he wanted it which is fine. On the steel string he sounded great though, none of the blackboard scratch heard on the classical. He got all the playing skills in the world but I think he could still learn a thing or two from classical guitar players.

[Great Googly Moogly]

I, personally, never got the whole Eric Clapton thing at all.

[brian richardson]

thank you Brian!!
exactly what i was thinking.
strange, you couldn't be the 'evil triplet' could you???
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

[GSI Fan]

Hey now boys…yeah I’m talking to the twin Brians. Clapton’s not too shabby in my book! The truth be known; Clapton – the “Unplugged Concert” - inspired me to pick the guitar up again after a 30+ years boycott. So, I’d appreciate it if you’d talk nice-nice about him or I’ll have to look the two of you up and WHALE on ya’!!! :wink:

Vabbb…not all nylon stringed guitars are “classical”. IMHO, classical guitar is a technique for playing nylon (or, dare I say, folk guitars).

Whoa, that folk guitar comment should rile a few of you!!!! :twisted:

[Great Googly Moogly]

thank you Brian!!
exactly what i was thinking.
strange, you couldn't be the 'evil triplet' could you???
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted::) :) :) :)


Now please excuse me while I return to the living room and practice my classical technique on my folk guitar. :)

[Guitar Slim]

I, personally, never got the whole Eric Clapton thing at all.

The thing about Clapton is, he's inconsistant. Oh, he's usually more-than-competent (well, expcept for the period when he was too wasted to stand upright on stage), but every once in a while takes a solo so transcentally great that you suddenly understand why some folks want to deify him.

Just to pick two examples: The first 12 bars of Derek and and Dominos' version of "Have You Ever Loved a Woman" is one of the most soul-searing blues solos I've ever heard played on an electric guitar. And it's got nothing to do with technique or speed or tasteful impovisation or any of that stuff. It's just a slow blues shuffle in C. But any blues fan who doesn't "get" that solo doesn't really "get" electric blues guitar.

A much later example: "Old Love" (from the Journeyman CD, not the Unplugged version). Guest guitarist Robert Cray is all over the song with lead fills and solos and stuff. Clapton only plays a brief little solo, but -- as good a blues man as Cray is, Eric just takes Bobby to school. Not because the solo is flashy or technically great (although it ain't bad) but because it's deep, deep, soul-felt blues.

And his touch and tone on his more recent blues CDs ain't nothin' to sneeze at either...

[brian richardson]

didn't clapton played on waters, 'pros and cons of hitchiking'?
-that one i liked-

[jtran_95136]

I think somehow we missed a point here. From a third world country to Clapton :shock: Wow!!!!
What I am trying to say is somewhere in third world country, there still have a talent kid that did not have a chance to expose and teach by a famous teacher. I am not able to play fluid like these people and I bet you if they have chance to practice and fine tune under a guidance of a great instructor, they will be well-known, maybe.
I think criticize is easy but if you can play like one of them, my hat is off to you too. Not mean to offend to anybody.
Or maybe if you can play like this Chinese girl.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8orExTCF1js
This piece is in the Classical guitar program at Pepperdine University in Malibu, CA under the direction of C. Parkening.
--JT

[Guitar Slim]

I think somehow we missed a point here. From a third world country to Clapton :shock: Wow!!!! :oops:

Heh heh. You haven't been around this forum long, have you? My apologies.

I think the person in the first video was great. And I don't think you can really criticize his tone because it appears that the video was made with a webcam, which are notoriously bad at reproducing acoustic instruments. Even with the poor sound, his bass sound strong and clear.

If I had just heard this, without seeing it, I would say that this person must have had some very good training. But seeing the way he sits and plays, I'm not so sure. If he's self taught, I am very impressed.

BTW, I gave a performance at work a couple of years back, and several Vietnamese co-workers told me that the classical guitar was very popular in Vietnam, for whatever reason. None of them had lived there in quite some time, so I imagine there are at least some resources and good teachers available to aspiring young students. And there are a number of internationally acclaimed guitarists from China. So it's not like the players from Asia are working in a complete vacuum....

[Pepe Vergara]

Some of the best players I have heard at the OC guitar club are from Vietnamese origen.

[Great Googly Moogly]

didn't clapton played on waters, 'pros and cons of hitchiking'?
-that one i liked-That is so odd that you mentioned Clapton playing on this CD because I was just informed of this for the first time just this week. I think it was my brother who told me.

[Great Googly Moogly]

Or maybe if you can play like this Chinese girl.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8orExTCF1js
This piece is in the Classical guitar program at Pepperdine University in Malibu, CA under the direction of C. Parkening.
--JTjtran, thanks for that Barrios link!

AWESOME!

Man, she ripped it up!

[Great Googly Moogly]

I, personally, never got the whole Eric Clapton thing at all.

. . . Just to pick two examples: The first 12 bars of Derek and and Dominos' version of "Have You Ever Loved a Woman" is one of the most soul-searing blues solos I've ever heard played on an electric guitar.

. . . A much later example: "Old Love" (from the Journeyman CD, not the Unplugged version).Chris,

I'm still waiting on a successful download of Old Love (always legal, of course) but I did manage to get a hold of and listen to Have You Ever Loved a Woman and all I have to say is that I will just SHUT MY MOUTH RIGHT NOW! I have NEVER heard anything like that by Clapton, before! EVER! And had no one told me, I'd've never guessed it was him.

. . . one of the most soul-searing blues solos I've ever heard played on an electric guitar. <---INDEED! AWESOME!

I repent,
Brian H.

Sorry to hijack your thread, jtran. I'm finished eating my shoe now. :)

[jtran_95136]

No problem Brian H. I just want to share with you all some good clips. That's all. These clips inspired me to continue to practice and to play. And in these clips somehow we can get an idea of "how-to"... But also there are always people with different opinions. That is "A Fact of Life".
I also want to tell you that live in America, a Freedom country, is the BEST. BEST OF ALL because it surrounds you with all the resources and it is up to you to decide. Once you live in a socialist communist country then escape from it then you will know what I mean.
--JT

[Libre]

Or maybe if you can play like this Chinese girl.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8orExTCF1js
This piece is in the Classical guitar program at Pepperdine University in Malibu, CA under the direction of C. Parkening.
--JTjtran, thanks for that Barrios link!

AWESOME!

Man, she ripped it up!

Yes, she shredded it all right. But there is something kind of ironic and disturbing (or hilarious, depending on your perspective) about this video. While this amazingly talented girl is playing a most difficult piece fantastically well, the other people in the room look like they couldn't be more bored. They come and go, pop in and out, go about their business, walk in front of the camera, oblivious to the miraculous performance that is occurring before them. It's almost a farce, on the level of Monty Python. The only redeeming aspect to it, is that the girl herself is unfazed and couldn't care less that everyone else couldn't care less, and takes obvious pride and pleasure in what she is doing. On the whole, though, a very weird video.

[brian richardson]

whoops

[brian richardson]

whoops part 2

[Todd]

Or maybe if you can play like this Chinese girl.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8orExTCF1js
This piece is in the Classical guitar program at Pepperdine University in Malibu, CA under the direction of C. Parkening.
--JTjtran, thanks for that Barrios link!

AWESOME!

Man, she ripped it up!

Yes, she shredded it all right. But there is something kind of ironic and disturbing (or hilarious, depending on your perspective) about this video. While this amazingly talented girl is playing a most difficult piece fantastically well, the other people in the room look like they couldn't be more bored. They come and go, pop in and out, go about their business, walk in front of the camera, oblivious to the miraculous performance that is occurring before them. It's almost a farce, on the level of Monty Python. The only redeeming aspect to it, is that the girl herself is unfazed and couldn't care less that everyone else couldn't care less, and takes obvious pride and pleasure in what she is doing. On the whole, though, a very weird video.

It looks like the video was done in a music school, wich
would explain why nobody seems affected.
Thats just everyday stuff if you're in music college.

[Great Googly Moogly]

The only redeeming aspect to it, is that the girl herself is unfazed and couldn't care less that everyone else couldn't care less, and takes obvious pride and pleasure in what she is doing.That was quite weird when you think about it. The smile on her face at the end of the video was the clincher. It was as if she was her own audience, pleased and satisfied with the performance, completely unconcerned with the indifference of the others. Bazaar, actually. Excellent observation.

[Great Googly Moogly]

It looks like the video was done in a music school, wich
would explain why nobody seems affected.
Thats just everyday stuff if you're in music college.Actually, I had the impression, also, that it took place at a music school. I guess it makes a little bit more sense seeing it in that light.

[Axel]

In the youtube comments someone says that another person was playing the piece at the same exact time in unison. Perhaps that would explain her smile?

[jtran_95136]

That's right. This is just a practice in school with another person so you can hear she count in Chinese "1, 2".
Here is another person plays the same piece just post recently. I think he tried to compete with this little girl. :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piQ-llgjIHc

Another person just posted on September 19.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nucO1FtUF4

And here is from Barbosa Lima
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHuWFRFk9cQ

For you to make a judgement.....

I see the Chinese girl plays with what I call is very freedom, very natural.
I think she still very young so her hand and fingers can stretch pretty good, while for me, I am not young :wink: , all the joints are stiff so it will be an uphill battle to practice this piece. I hope someday I can play this piece.
--JT

[Folio]

On the Barrios vid, I'm sure this is everyday stuff at Chen Zhi's school, but its definately not at any American college or conservatory. Most departments are lucky to have one guy (or girl) who can play and the rest are just tuition checks. That one person is almost always a recent immigrant as well. Not sure why.

I love watching sgoar, he's the epitomy of the self-made guitarist. Its an interesting clash between a girl who has followed strict instruction (Chen is a notorious taskmaster) with a guy who has put his own blood, sweat and tears to try and find a way to make it work.

Eduardo Fernandez writes about this dichotomy. I think if one if Chen's students rebelled against him and said "Now it's MY way" we might have a giant on our hands.

[Todd]

On the Barrios vid, I'm sure this is everyday stuff at Chen Zhi's school, but its definately not at any American college or conservatory. Most departments are lucky to have one guy (or girl) who can play and the rest are just tuition checks. That one person is almost always a recent immigrant as well. Not sure why.

I love watching sgoar, he's the epitomy of the self-made guitarist. Its an interesting clash between a girl who has followed strict instruction (Chen is a notorious taskmaster) with a guy who has put his own blood, sweat and tears to try and find a way to make it work.

Eduardo Fernandez writes about this dichotomy. I think if one if Chen's students rebelled against him and said "Now it's MY way" we might have a giant on our hands.

Wanted to make it clear, i did not mean to downplay the talent
here. She's clearly incredible. I love the piece.
I live near Peabody Conservatory in Baltimore Maryland, where
im sure you would find similar situations. Im pretty sure Su Meng,
who recently won a major american competition, is studying there
with Barrueco.
TK

[jtran_95136]

I agree with Folio. I remember when I was in Vietnam taking a guitar lesson with a local teacher, he wants me to put my right wrist at a 90 degree angle, same way as Alexandre Lagoya. And I had to obey that, no BUT or IF. Now that I hear the way Lagoya wants students to put the wrist that way cause a problem later on. In America teacher let student free to express not in a strict rules. That's what we call capitalism....
But somehow in the strict rules and regulations, they created talented gifted kids....
I regret I did not attend the final guitar competition at Pepperdine U.
If anyone has a video about that competition, pls let me know.
--JT

[Guitar Slim]

Inhumanly good playing. Some people say CG technique is just now coming into its own, that soon we will begin to hear guitarists who can play with the same speed and accuracy as a virtuoso violinist or pianist. This might just be the proof!

BTW, this appears to me to be a dressing room or a green room (note the lighted mirror). Looks like she's warming up for a performance, possibly for a competition or masterclass. I don't think it's for a solo recital because of all of the other folks wandering around, none of them paying the slightest bit of attention...

[Axel]

Another person just posted on September 19.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nucO1FtUF4



This guy's thumb is really weird! :shock:

[jay]

The guy in the video is a good player imo
With coaching of interpretation he will play anything including Bach since he's got enough technique.


check out Kaori Muraji playing the same piece tango in sky

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-ki1aDusuk

watch her bach chaconne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTmWZW3Q_S4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2ZT60ytU2k&mode=related&search=

[brian richardson]

thanks for the link jay-
that was very nice.

any clue as to the guitar she's playing?
great sound she gets from that baby!!!

[Jubilee Valence]

...........several Vietnamese co-workers told me that the classical guitar was very popular in Vietnam, for whatever reason. None of them had lived there in quite some time, so I imagine there are at least some resources and good teachers available to aspiring young students. And there are a number of internationally acclaimed guitarists from China. So it's not like the players from Asia are working in a complete vacuum.... I imagine you're "right on the money" there! ;)

...something tells me also that if you've got Spruce...and some Braziian Rosewood...."available"---then lets add "Luthiers" into that formula! :mrgreen:

"..and it's One, Two, Three!--What were we fighting for? Don't ask me, I don't give a damn!...

...next stop is Viet Nam!.."--Country Joe

"Wel'p! There's some BEAUTIFUL instruments!!"--Jubilee Valence USMC

http://www.thinmanmusic.com/VietCGsh.jpg

http://www.thinmanmusic.com/VietCG.jpg

OMG!!!!! THEY'RE HUGE!!! AAARRRGGHHHH!!!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

:arrow: pppsst! Hey!...all you big shot "Luthiers" from "Baltee-more" :roll: take a look at that "saddle", huh? :idea: Quit wastin' yer' time googlin "wood" & get back to "shop 101"....that means YOU, "Iberian Pup!"--JV

:arrow: oooohh--"FOXY!" --J. Hendrix 8) :!:

[Jubilee Valence]

It's good ta' know someone's always watchin' the fence! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

[brian richardson]

i swear i've seen that rose before.
just lovely 8)

btw-going to check the post and rails for them.

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
as is, was, and ever shall be!!

them wingnuts found a new place??
luthiers corner??? my sides are splitting-what's his name??
oh yeah knuckle-knob was it......