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JoeNo1
10-01-2006, 10:52 PM
#13
http://3alabel.com/JoeNo1/Guitar/tmp/CC_Estudios13_Leo6_1.wmv
#7
http://3alabel.com/JoeNo1/Guitar/tmp/CC_Estudios7_1.wmv
#1 #2 #3
http://3alabel.com/JoeNo1/Guitar/tmp/CC_Estudios_123_1.wmv
#18 #6 #4
http://3alabel.com/JoeNo1/Guitar/tmp/CC_Estudios_4618_1.wmv
1 hour a day in average, try to improve my sign reading.
JoeAlders
10-02-2006, 11:45 AM
Hello JoeNo1,
Just a curious question: Which sheet music publisher are you using?
I studied these Carcassi Etudes using the “ Melodische und fortschreitende
Etüden” published by the German guitarist Erwin Schwartz-Reiflingen.
He gives a somewhat different numbering to these studies but
the ones you are playing are all familiar to me.
You say that you play these studies just for sight reading purposes (prima vista) ,
but in MHO they are also very good to improve your RH and LH playing too!!
Especially his ( Carcassi) number 18 Study, I find this a real challenge for both hands!
By the way, is that lovely little girl walking around in the background on one of your
videos your daughter?
Joe.
JoeNo1
10-02-2006, 02:01 PM
Hello JoeNo1,
Just a curious question: Which sheet music publisher are you using?
I studied these Carcassi Etudes using the “ Melodische und fortschreitende
Etüden” published by the German guitarist Erwin Schwartz-Reiflingen.
He gives a somewhat different numbering to these studies but
the ones you are playing are all familiar to me.
You say that you play these studies just for sight reading purposes (prima vista) ,
but in MHO they are also very good to improve your RH and LH playing too!!
Especially his ( Carcassi) number 18 Study, I find this a real challenge for both hands!
By the way, is that lovely little girl walking around in the background on one of your
videos your daughter?
Joe.
I'm using this edition. It's free.
http://www.eythorsson.com/music/1007.pdf
Yes, you are right. They are pretty good etudes for both hands. My primary purpose is to improve my sign reading. 2nd is to pay a attention to my right hand.
#18 is kind of easy for me. But I have doubt with some notes in this piece. Please compare my score and yours to see any difference if you can. Thanks.
IMO, #4 & #7 is a challenge to me when I try to play very fast.
Yes, that's my daughter.
JoeAlders
10-04-2006, 08:28 AM
“….#18 is kind of easy for me. But I have doubt with some notes in this piece.
Please compare my score and yours to see any difference if you can. Thanks…..”
Hi JoeNo1,
It has been a long time ago when I studied this no18. and I do not exactly know what you mean
with “doubt with some notes” So I played it again and compared the Thorlaksson sheet with the one
I have with fingerings by Schwarz-Reiflingen (published by Schott).
Then I noticed two differences: one in measure number 21, there Thorlaksson uses a neutral preceding
the c which is not there in the Schwarz-Reiflingen version. And the other one in measure number 26
where the Schwarz-Reiflingen has a neutral preceding
the C on the fifth string , which is not the case in the Thorlaksson version. In my opinion in both cases
the Schwarz-Reiflingen version is the correct one.
To be sure I also compared the version with fingerings by Frederick Noad and his version also matches
with the Schwarz-Reiflingen at these two particular measures.
Hope this will help…?
Joe.
JoeNo1
10-10-2006, 09:36 AM
“….#18 is kind of easy for me. But I have doubt with some notes in this piece.
Please compare my score and yours to see any difference if you can. Thanks…..”
Hi JoeNo1,
It has been a long time ago when I studied this no18. and I do not exactly know what you mean
with “doubt with some notes” So I played it again and compared the Thorlaksson sheet with the one
I have with fingerings by Schwarz-Reiflingen (published by Schott).
Then I noticed two differences: one in measure number 21, there Thorlaksson uses a neutral preceding
the c which is not there in the Schwarz-Reiflingen version. And the other one in measure number 26
where the Schwarz-Reiflingen has a neutral preceding
the C on the fifth string , which is not the case in the Thorlaksson version. In my opinion in both cases
the Schwarz-Reiflingen version is the correct one.
To be sure I also compared the version with fingerings by Frederick Noad and his version also matches
with the Schwarz-Reiflingen at these two particular measures.
Hope this will help…?
Joe.
Thanks Joe!
I'll check note by note late.
My math class is killing me. Soooo much homework...
Steve Lin
10-10-2006, 10:48 PM
Carcassi was one of the many things I grew up with (well, I started when I was 14, so it wasn't that early.) My teacher at that time was fantastic and very supportive. We spent and hour and a half on one of those half-page studies. I could barely play at that time and that 1.5 hours opened a completely new world to me. So, in a pinch, Carcassi is great for developing many types of fundamentals. Also, because of the likes of Carcassi, Sor and Giuliani, I have little problem sight reading pieces of that era. It's definitely great stuff!
JoeNo1
10-14-2006, 01:13 PM
Carcassi was one of the many things I grew up with (well, I started when I was 14, so it wasn't that early.) My teacher at that time was fantastic and very supportive. We spent and hour and a half on one of those half-page studies. I could barely play at that time and that 1.5 hours opened a completely new world to me. So, in a pinch, Carcassi is great for developing many types of fundamentals. Also, because of the likes of Carcassi, Sor and Giuliani, I have little problem sight reading pieces of that era. It's definitely great stuff!
Cool! I understand that one and a half hour totally changed your attitude of playing classical guitar.
I just get in touch Carcassi 25 studies in this semester. I think I can play any one of them. But I also feel none of them is easy for me.
I'm working on my classical guitar blog. It's under testing at this time. I would like to share everything about my study. And welcome to leave any comment.
http://blog.JoeNo1.com/
Steve Lin
10-14-2006, 01:38 PM
Joe,
On my blog there are a few entries of how I used to practice and some other thoughts on practicing, just in case you're interested. www.linguitar.com/blog
There's nothing easy about the Carcassi 25 so don't feel bad. The last two are very beautiful, as difficult as of some of the Legnani Caprices but with more musical substance.
Speaking of last two, the last two of Segovia's Sor Studies are also just great.
JoeAlders
10-15-2006, 07:43 AM
Steve,
I had already visited your website sometime ago but somehow overlooked the ‘blog’.
Reading there what you are saying about ‘Developing Technique’ when practicing scales and slurs
using the metronome is very interesting. I will try to do this also.
About the Carcassi etudes: I did these with the exception of the last five, but I am determent to
correct this omission because these etude are, as I have said before in this thread very good to improve
my (rusty)-LH and RH technique.
Iam playing classical guitar since I was 14 years old but due to my very busy work was unable to play it
on a regular basis for the last 25 years or so. But I am retired now
(I am 60 years old and feeling that I am a mastodon of this Forum) and practicing a lot trying to
regain the level where I was that 25 years ago.
Joe.
JoeNo1,
I visited your ‘blog’ but there is something wrong I think ( I am using IE6).
There is a lot that I cannot read. In stead of what I expect to be text there are
little squares instead.
Joe.
Steve Lin
10-15-2006, 10:43 AM
Joe,
Thanks for letting me know... that's very strange. I usually have the problem when I'm dealing with non-english text since I read Chinese as well and it's a few seconds before I find the right format in the browser. I'll look into the problem and see what can be done. Thanks for visiting!
JoeAlders
10-15-2006, 01:29 PM
Joe,
Thanks for letting me know... that's very strange. I usually have the problem when I'm dealing with non-english text since I read Chinese as well and it's a few seconds before I find the right format in the browser. I'll look into the problem and see what can be done. Thanks for visiting!
Steve,
It is the 'blog" of JoeNo1 which gives the problem, not yours....!
Joe.
JoeNo1
10-15-2006, 06:33 PM
Thank Steve and Joe!
My blog is under testing. I need to convert most of the function into English. The box you are seeing is nothing wrong. Those are Chinese characters. In order to read them, you need "Chinese Simplified (GB2312)" support from Microsoft.
Here is the study recording from this afternoon. #7 #18 #19
http://3alabel.com/JoeNo1/Guitar/tmp/CC_Estudios_71819_1.wmv
Welcome to comment.
The following is a post from my blog,
This video shows the technique you'd better use to play Carcassi 25 Estudios No.1. Both hands are involved to silence the unnecessary notes and syntony.
http://3alabel.com/JoeNo1/Guitar/tmp/CC_Estudios1_shutup.wmv
GuitariAri
02-02-2011, 04:37 PM
#13
http://3alabel.com/JoeNo1/Guitar/tmp/CC_Estudios13_Leo6_1.wmv
#7
http://3alabel.com/JoeNo1/Guitar/tmp/CC_Estudios7_1.wmv
#1 #2 #3
http://3alabel.com/JoeNo1/Guitar/tmp/CC_Estudios_123_1.wmv
#18 #6 #4
http://3alabel.com/JoeNo1/Guitar/tmp/CC_Estudios_4618_1.wmv
1 hour a day in average, try to improve my sign reading.
Joe,
I've seen you play on YouTube and I love your recordings. I'm a big fan of Carcassi's studies. I was first introduced to them in Lawrence Ferrara's book "The Student Repertoire Series". There he has Etude #3. But after getting David Tannenbaum's recording of all 25 I was shocked at how varied and beautiful they all are. #16 is now my favorite: the beautiful melody and accompaniment was described by someone as "like a little piano piece". I can play it (almost properly :) Also, #1 is a brilliant scale piece. I can play it slowly, but when I hear it played at tempo on a recording I'm blown away. I'm still not there :)
I love the pieces so much that I wrote an article on them: Carcassi's 25 Etudes for Classical Guitar Opus 60 - Videos, Sheet Music and Tab (http://hubpages.com/hub/Matteo-Carcassis-25-Etudes-Studies-for-Classical-Guitar-Opus-60-Op-60). I really hope that my article helps to introduce other people to these pieces! Please give me your feedback!
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