STOLEN GUITAR?!

[Jubilee Valence]

Perf brother, Thank You for the "heads up"!!!!

To all:
YES THAT IS MY GUITAR!

IT WAS STOLEN FROM ME AND REPORTED TO THAT SCUMBAG BUSINESS OWNER IN SCOTTSDALE ARIZONA!!!

HE OWNS A "PAWNSHOP".

PAWNSHOPS ARE APPARENTLY "EXEMPT" FROM THE LAW!
_________

Beware folks! Pawnshops steal items EVERY DAY in these here United States.

Call the COPS???!!!

Hell, I thought they OWNED THE PLACE!!!???

Phil Chesley
aka Jubilee Valence

ps...Yep that piece of trash stole my Martin DVM, Hummingbird, Joe Pass, AND
BRAND STINKIN' NEW---

Juan Huipe w/ PEGS!

They are THIEVES!

YOU GOT THAT IN WRITING!

AND IT AINT LIBEL!

IT'S THE TRUTH!
YOU WANT PROOF?
Call 'em!
They BRAG about it!

Jubi
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Perf saw the Solista on e-bay...I can't do the link as I'm using borrowed equipment (at a gals place...not my set-up etc...sorry!)

[Jubilee Valence]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Cordoba-Solista-Flamenco-Acoustic-Guitar-In-Case_W0QQitemZ220115522009QQihZ012QQcategoryZ2385Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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oddly enough...I can't even report it stolen to ebay---because I'M NOT A MEMBER!!!!???

[brian richardson]

someone who belongs to ebay, do the right thing and
get over there and report it!!!

[JCPO]

i just reported it to Ebay.

[sausgirl]

Hey Jubi,
What the [i]HELL????
You had your stuff stolen?
What about the friggin cops?
I only see the Flammenco and the Epi.
Nothing else.
I see someone else notified EBAY.
You can get in touch with EBAY WITHOUT being a member.
If you get a chance drop me an email...our flammeco playing friend :twisted:
knows my emil addy!
Love you bro,
Jan :twisted: :twisted:

[Pepe Vergara]

Jube: Is that the prototype you bought from GSI? The sister of Faya's?
Wasn't that a casualty of divorce or someone took it? No wonder I did not hear from you!! I hope you get it back. Those are great guitars. The new Cordobas are great!

[Michelob]

The purchaser of stolen property does not acquire good title to it, ever, as the seller did not have good title, to start with. The True Owner may reclaim it at any time, but within three (3) years of discovery of the stolen property’s whereabouts.
If you can prove Title to and of the Guitar (Sales receipt, Store records, Police reports) I will help you secure an attorney in Arizona, to reclaim your Guitar in Court.

Giacomo

[JCPO]

Here's the reply that I received from ebay:
Dear eBay Member,

Thank you for writing eBay in regard to this listing.

If you see an item on eBay that you believe is stolen, please contact
law enforcement immediately. Please inform the police officer handling
the case that eBay will be pleased to cooperate in the investigation.
Ask the officer to contact eBay at the following Help page:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/contact_us/_base/index_selection.html

To ensure that the report reaches the right person in the shortest
amount of time, the officer will need to follow these steps:

1. Select the "Listing Violations" option, and then click the "Continue"
button.
2. Select the "Stolen property" option, and then select the "You are a
law enforcement official" option.
3. Click the "Continue" button.
4. Click the "Email us" link.

The officer will be required to enter his or her contact information
and, if available, will also be asked to enter the Item number, User ID,
and additional information about your report.

Feel free to forward this message to the law enforcement officer
assigned to the case.

Thanks again for your report.

Sincerely,
Paige

eBay Customer Support

[Sandra]

Several years ago I contacted the legal department of a major electronics company regarding what I had reason to believe was someone selling stolen laptops online. At that time, I was informed that the FBI had 40 agents dedicated full-time to nothing but investigating ebay fraud. Keep in mind that that was several years ago, so they probably have considerably more now.

JV, I hope you get your guitars back and that they don't get held up as "evidence".

[sausgirl]

Hey Jubi,
here is where your other guitar went.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Juan-Huipe-Guitarrero-Flamenco-Acoustic-Guitar-W-Case_W0QQitemZ220115521828QQihZ012QQcategoryZ2385Q QcmdZViewItem

[Faya]

DUDE!!!!???!!!????????

what the heck happened Monro'.........????

frickin' SUCKS!!!! :evil: :twisted: :twisted:

[NoDo]

If this is your guitar then why didn't you report it stolen?
First of all every pawn shop has to report the item correctly to the pawn detail every single day. We have no room for error and anything that comes thru are door stolen is retrieved by the police.

Ok, now just so everyone knows. This guitar was pawned by the guys wife whom started this thread. His wifee pawned his guitars without his knowledge and in order to get the guitar out of pawn the person that pawnded has to be present with an ID. Since this persons wife wouldn't get them out he claims them as "Stolen". This is your wifes doings not anyone elses so technically they are not stolen or this person would have filled a police report with serial numbers, which he obviously doesn't have and they would be retrieved by the police.

This is such a joke!

[Faya]

well.................whether or not what you say is true...............

i would hardly call someones guitars being sold behind their back without their knowledge a "Joke".

[NoDo]

I call the fact that he is saying that they are stolen a joke. The person has known that we have had them since his wife pawned them. He has also known that we have had them for sale for months now. Its not like we just took the guitars in. We have had them in our posession for about 6 months now.

[rumbamaster]

You knew his wife was pawing his guitars behind his back, and you still did the sale? You are a total scumbag. What goes around comes around. You'll get yours one day...

[brian richardson]

perfectly said rumbamaster.

[Faya]

You knew his wife was pawing his guitars behind his back, and you still did the sale? You are a total scumbag. What goes around comes around. You'll get yours one day...

pawnshops are known for their bottom feeding mentality. :wink:

way to go rumbamaster.

[PedroO]

Well, technically his wife owned half of what they had at the time of divorce (I am assuming AZ is a community state). I presume she took half of the guitars, and Jube took the the other half. I wonder who took the byke. Also, pawnshops are not founded by mother Theresa for the benefit of the orphans.

Sorry guys, I did smell this movement by Jube was probably related to divorce or high level of tequila under the AZ desert.

[Sandra]

I'm not trying to take sides here, but if what NoDo says is true (and I have no reason to disbelieve him), then this is really a matter between JV and his wife.

You knew his wife was pawing his guitars behind his back, and you still did the sale?
It is not a pawnbroker's role to get involved in marital disputes. They do, as NoDo pointed out, have to comply with some pretty strict rules on reporting transactions.

[Sandra]

Also, pawnshops are not founded by mother Theresa for the benefit of the orphans.
LOL, didn't see your post before I made mine.

Ya know, if I were to leave my husband, there would be some things I damned well wouldn't leave behind in his possession... and my guitars would be near the top of the list.

[NoDo]

first of all we didn't know that they were her husbands until he came down and made a big sceen about him not being able to get them out of pawn himself. Yes, AZ is a community state. This man knew what his wife had done and we informed him of his options. He obviously did not pursue them otherwise he could have gotten his guitars back. He knew we had them and knew we would sell them so THESE GUITARS ARE NOT STOLEN!!! Unfortunantly, I had to find out from someone on ebay that someone had been posting these auctions in a forum stating they were stolen and hurting the price that they could have been sold for.

If he really wanted these guitars then he should have done the right thing instead of accusing someone of selling his "STOLEN" guitars.

There are the kind of things that ebayers hate to see. All this person is trying to do is hurt ones image by pretty much calling them a "theif or scammer" when in fact we arent.

[iberianwolf]

Jubi reported some months ago on this forum that his wife/ex-wife/whatever left him and took some of his stuff including guitars. That was when he should have reported them "stolen" and not whine about it now.
The pawnbroker apparently has filed the proper police reports, etc., had informed Jubi of his options (that Jubi apparently did not pursue), and has held the merchandise for the amount of time required by law. The police have not confiscated them as "stolen". Pawn tickets aren't good forever. There are time limits and when they're up you either pay back the money you received for the goods plus interest or forefeit what you've pawned. It's not rocket science.
You can call the guy a scumbag and a bottom feeder but like it or not, it seems that legally the guitars are now the property of the pawnbroker to do with as he pleases. It's just business. If you don't like the way pawnshops do business, don't deal with them.
Get a grip, people.....and welcome to the real world.

[sausgirl]

Who is this guy???
The pawn broker that got the bad goods from Jubi's wife LESLIE.
She started this crap.
I did read it Wolfie.
Crawl back into your den.

Bad Wolfie, bad dog er...... :x

[Faya]

"Welcome to the real world"...................paaaaleaseeee!! :lol: :roll:
don't tell me about the real world ...............i've been and lived in places that would probably make you piss yer pants wolfie........ :lol: :lol:

despite that............i would have to say there's no honor in a world run by these sorts of details...........simple as that...............bottom feeders and scumbags........that's the rule of the day.

and i would have to agree................if me and my wife were having troubles...........the first things that would come with me would have been MY GUITARS!!!!....................never would they ever get snatched up and sold behind my back!!!!!..............

Monro' Jubi................you should take things up with the ol' ladie on this one!.....................

[iberianwolf]

Where you (or I) have been and lived has nothing whatsoever to do with this thread.
Sorry folks, but the pawnbroker is totally within his rights.

And Sausy, if you can be bothered to read the whole thread, NoDo made it very clear that he did take the guitars in pawn from Mrs. Jubi.

[Faya]

Well........then stop trying to always make digs at people with your little personal remarks,..............like we're a bunch of idiots!!
You're not the only person on earth who knows what "The real world' is about.............

and yes................that's the problem with this situation.
he is within his rights..................and rights that are meant to protect people which sadly also protect those with "no conscious" or honor!

[iberianwolf]

Jubi had options. He chose not to follow through on them. Case closed.
Get over it.

[NoDo]

First of all I would like to think some of you for actually realizing the situation and taking the time to realize what is going on. For those that think ppl that run pawn shop are "Scumbags" or whatever they make think I really sorry you feel that way. Just so everyone knows I am the one that is selling the guitars. If someone came into our pawnshop they would see that we are upscale and not your every day pawn shop that just takes junk. We are proud to say that we follow the law day in and day out when we take in items and we have maybe had 3 stolen items in our store over the past 18 months.

All I was trying to get at by posting the message is that this person that claiming this guitars as stolen is wrong and he has no right saying that they are at all. IMO this person should be banned from ebay but unfortunantly I don't have a say in it. It is a very sad thing to see when ppl do stuff like this. Not only is it effecting me and my company but it then effects other sellers on ebay that are selling good clean merchandise like mine.

thanks for everyone $.02 and time.

[brian richardson]

and here is iberianpussy'cat'
licking his chops with glee(i'm sure)
that one of 'his' 'pals' is having a rough time.
maybe people wouldn't think you such a clown/wannabee
if once, just once in a while, made a positive
comment instead of pointing out the 'obvious' as you say.
we all know you slithered over to the gsi forum from
the AG forum(or maybe
most don't and that's what you are counting on)
to get even with
jubi for exposing you(viagra),for the cheap'know-it-all'
you wish to be and the 'followers' you have, who lap
up the drivel your clumsy teeth can't hold back.

why not post your profile on the who's-who thread?
damn i forgot, we don't have a lie filter. better forget
it, you'd get all THREE of you mixed up.

what do you do? play guitar, build guitars( :roll: )
or just quote from other peoples research and make like it's your
own. oh sorry if you can't handle it.
i just call it like i see it.

and quit your 'sorry folks' garbage
you're not this mis-understood good soul
whose sole purpose is to 'inform' us. you are a joke.
gee, golly wiz, good grief, holy cow, no need to get
yourself all wound up there little guy. just a forum right?

and there's his EDIT, i knew he couldn't resist.

[Faya]

Who made you the athority here to say "Case Closed"........... :lol: :lol: :lol: ......................

you're so full of yourself it's pathetic!!........ :lol:

get over what??..............i'm not behind anything that i have to get over???

i was just stating my opinion like you, but unlike you i don't think mine is the voice of God......... :lol: :lol: :lol:

[iberianwolf]

Somebody needs a nap. :lol:

[Faya]

or maybe someone needs to stop dreaming about himself and how cool he is and wake up! :wink: :lol: :lol:

[NoDo]

oh ya i forgot to mention that this person that claims the guitars as stolen has also braught some of his guitars in himself so its not like he doesn't know how the process works.

[brian richardson]

iberpup-

still waiting for an honest answer.
you haven't forgot what honesty means
have you.

did i wake you up in the middle of dreaming about
building quality guitars and being a player in the luthier's world?
thrill us again with your flamenco info:
'a flamenco guitar is made of wood and has strings'
that would fit right in with your 'writings' :lol:

it's not rocket science(you made that one up too?)if you
are able to do it. that's for damn sure.
get back to the letter lifting. :roll:

see? we all can edit but, we don't
try it sometime so we 'get' the real you.

[iberianwolf]

Love ya, big guy. :lol:

[brian richardson]

again folks, not an answer :roll:

[PedroO]

I am going to eHarmony.com and fill the profile for both of you (IW and Bri) to see your compatibility. There is only one step between what you demonstrate here and love!!

[brian richardson]

i dig chicks

one step? like here to the moon? :twisted:
that was a funny post perdo, i'll give you that! :lol:

[Faya]

AAwwwwwW!!.................look at this cute picture of Wolfie.

That explains why he's so quick to attack all the time.................his kind is on the verge of extinction.

i'll adopt ya lil'guy!! ..............

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Carlos_Joao/Iberianw.htm

[brian richardson]

damn faya!! pepsi shot out my nose. :lol: :lol: :lol:
now i gotta clean this mess. :evil:

[Faya]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

sorry'bout that........... :lol: :lol:

[sausgirl]

Hey,
Ebay never heard from me that there were "stolen guitars".
Must have been someone else.
I was tempted but never did it.
I have apologized in the other threads and do so now again-
I am sorry if I inferred that you stole the guitars.
They were taken by Jubis wife before the divorce was final-I think.
I think that sucks.
Nuff said.
Jan

[Sandra]

Hey,
Ebay never heard from me that there were "stolen guitars".
Must have been someone else.
I was tempted but never did it.
I have apologized in the other threads and do so now again-
I am sorry if I inferred that you stole the guitars.
They were taken by Jubis wife before the divorce was final-I think.
I think that sucks.
Nuff said.
Jan

STOLEN GUITARS ON EBAY

Last edited by sausgirl on Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:13 pm; edited 3 times in total

Just keep pretending you never started that thread, and that you didn't edit your posts to try to cover your tracks. :roll:

Give me a break. I'm not that stupid, honest.

[sausgirl]

Hey Sandra,
Nothing personal.
I made a mistake and am trying to make amends to the shop owner.
This isn't about you.
And..I don't think you're stupid.Period. End of story.
Jan

[PedroO]

Hey,
Ebay never heard from me that there were "stolen guitars".
Must have been someone else.
I was tempted but never did it.
I have apologized in the other threads and do so now again-
I am sorry if I inferred that you stole the guitars.
They were taken by Jubis wife before the divorce was final-I think.
I think that sucks.
Nuff said.
Jan

STOLEN GUITARS ON EBAY

Last edited by sausgirl on Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:13 pm; edited 3 times in total

Just keep pretending you never started that thread, and that you didn't edit your posts to try to cover your tracks. :roll:

Give me a break. I'm not that stupid, honest.




Cat fight!!!!!!!!!

[Sandra]

Cat fight!!!!!!!!!
Naw, it's just that she said this:

Ebay never heard from me that there were "stolen guitars".
Must have been someone else.
I was tempted but never did it.

And this was after she started a thread here saying she had reported the "stolen guitars" to ebay. I fully expected a "wink, wink, nudge, nudge" at the end of her last post.

[sausgirl]

OK ok..
This is the LAST COMMENT I will say on this.
I DIDN'T mean to start a new topic-I wanrted to reply and instead hit the
New Post** button.
My brain was on overdrive.
I owe you NO explaination Sandra-and I have already apologized ad nauseum to NoDo-that should be enough.
Even you felt sorry for JV as you called him.
So AGAIN for everyone else who even CARES about this missguided
thread....
I AM ETERNALLY SORRY.
END of story and hopefully this post.
Jan
**OOPS yes another EDIT!!!
I meant ** NEWTHREAD-maybe they should put the buttons further apart for the inept like me.

[PedroO]

Don't be sorry. Just be mean. That way, they do not mess with you :cry:

[Jubilee Valence]

The purchaser of stolen property does not acquire good title to it, ever, as the seller did not have good title, to start with. The True Owner may reclaim it at any time, but within three (3) years of discovery of the stolen property’s whereabouts.
If you can prove Title to and of the Guitar (Sales receipt, Store records, Police reports) I will help you secure an attorney in Arizona, to reclaim your Guitar in Court.

GiacomoThank you Brother Member. I need to say right here and now to all that I'm PERSONALLY touched by your concerns. When I typed that thread starter, it came from "the gut"--rather than "the head"--as I'd just discovered the furthering of these despicable acts, which I'd previously and necessarily put "out of touch....."

AND...

..as usual...the information itself is RIGHT ON THE MONEY(pardon the dark pun... :roll: )--albeit..."DRAMATIC..."
[*Apologies to all regarding my absence from the forum and my responsibility in same....I'm "homeless" and have been since last Dec.--JV]
As the clues trickle* in...(*sp.; compare with "trick", hmnn? ;) ) take special note of the stance of the member-"nodo"...

At first, ("GEE!") he heralds in the patriotism inherant in us all and implants the seeds of "Honest businessmen..." by rallying 'round the flag of "Honest, Hard Working, Never Appreciated, Sorely Needed, etc etc...Pawnbrokers"--of which this piece of trash has NOTHING IN COMMON WITH.(the "honest" part, folks! :oops: )

[* note the civic "buzz word"-- Pawn Detail--def: Municipal Bureau staffed by L.E. specialists to SPECIFICALLY rein-in "wayward", or otherwise "leaning" Pawnshops which are licensed and current in their respective communities; 'keep 'em on the straight & narrow; etc ok? ;) ]

As it unfolds, {"GOLLY!")--with "HIS VERSION" of our "facts"--
[*and my Baltimore contingent ever ready to "pick up"...and run with... a self-induced "fumble"...kind of like an "On sides kick"...-JV]

--he of course delights in his newly found "drunk with power" popularity & cheering section, and thus begins to take and gives "laterals....."

...all the way to the WRONG GOALPOST!! :shock:

...tisk tisk tisk!

First off, Sandra: Thank you for your involvement especially due to your keen observational skills and presence of mind to NOT let this roll on by as some type of "sour grapes" whining... etc as some have suggested..And that pretty much goes out to all involved, be it in the thread itself, or as casual and/or interested observers. Thanks!

It's "REAL.."

My "wifee".... ('she a personal friend of yours pawnboy?--just curious.. due to yer' *endearing "tag"...got that? That's REAL... too. And...that's two..punk, got that?)
[Afterthought: She also has a "boyfriend"; He and I can and will....put our differences aside, if it means that YOU AND THAT OTHER PIECE OF TRASH THAT WORKS FOR YOU will "settle" this....ahem.."out of court"...in perhaps "your" favorite Dojo or Studio or any athletic club or venue--ANYWHERE. I am now as always, "generous" with regards to "where" you want to "PROVE IT"--JV]

...She pawned the Martin DVM, Gibson H-Bird, Epi J.P., Solista prtotyp. AND the Huipe w/ pegs...BEFORE...any indication whatsoever of forthcoming mayhem and with my knowledge, consent and with regards to convenience.

She then eventually "misappropriated" her total bills monies......again and again....with my blindly "re-feeding" her "kitty"...to the point of her somehow coming to a decision of "cut & run" with a specified monetary figure to: "start over" with aforementioned "boyfriend"..

...which in turn became a new decision to: "take it all" ie "half..."

Bear in mind that we did NOT adjudge a value to all "community property" and split bills and monies, but rather, "she" dictated "what" was hers....and "what" (hint: "nothing!!??" TRUE STORY!!) was mine...

And that, due to her "power"--issued by a "court of law.."--which removed me at gunpoint from my home and remained (until sale of home & subsequently, of her "ejection" by the new owners...) as "Shoot to Kill"...

She then held the instrument of her & nodo's destruction as her: [*GEE!! GOLLY!!--JV] only means of paying the bills(remember, "she" got us there!! ;) ), foreclosure, re-po,etc.

'except...

I had it ALL covered..

including...

REFINANCE.
___________

...back to the future..

I "PERSONALLY" called the Pawnshop with these (and "more...")FACTS.

"Nice Pawn" in Casa Grande Az allows the ticket holder to include any party thay choose to redeem goods--if done in writing and with proper I.D. on the ticket at their place of business.

"Vegas Pawn" will NOT...

Nice Pawn allows a "grace period" NOT including *holidays...

and.....unbelievably...Vegas Pawn WILL NOT..

*the redemption date was on a HOLIDAY....

Now...
..the LIAR at Vegas Pawn said he'd give an extra day to account for the holiday (on which the store was closed) so the new date instead was the next business day after the holiday---plus--- the extra day replacing the holiday(which is NOT a business day)

As "wifee" and myself were *still reeling from their (Vegas Pawn) "LAST SECOND" ADMISSION that "EITHER" of us could "pay the interest" (instead of the previous LIE in which ONLY the ticketholder could conduct ANY BUSINESS WHATSOEVER in that said account)---so at the "day after" the holiday, we felt some relief in the "BELIEVED LIE FROM VEGAS PAWN" that either of us could pay up the $300 "buffer" amount the following day.

*wifee was there the week previously to pawn rings and EASILY had the money to PAY THE INTEREST ON TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH OF PRIZED INSTRUMENTS----

BUT---

THEY SAID: "NO RENEWAL!!!!!!!????"

SO SHE WALKED OUT OF THE STORE-----IN SEVERE BEWILDERMENT---TO THEN BEGIN WORRYING ABOUT HOW TO NEXT AFFORD(in ONE MORE WEEK, remember? :roll: )--HER "BIG TICKET",--$1300 CASH or LOSE ALL 5 OF MY GUITARS!!!
(and more importantly, her: [GEE! GOLLY!-JV] "kitty" of pricey guitars to part out--"one by one by one.." and so thus live without working......until her "next" big ticket on the horizon...sale of foreclosed home...)

The day she ADMITTED that she would NOT EVER, EVER, EVER allow the return of MY GUITARS to "ME"---they became stolen.

They REMAINED STOLEN---even AFTER I explained EVERYTHING to Vegas Pawn---because they wanted THE GUITARS!---

NOT THE MONEY.
(she had the money to "pay the interest" a week before...AND SHE WAS RIGHT THERE!!!!)

They DEMANDED $7000 CASH on the day that we *were to pick them up.

The "extra day" because of the holiday on which the due date had fallen and the shop was closed.

They state: "....next business day after a holiday..." AND---

they told US...that they would grant an additional day because we didn't need to drive from Casa Grande to Scottsdale on a mere technicality

...after all......we're the customers...AND....

DING!!!

that they...APPRECIATED OUR "BUSINESS"

*We each called the shop, thinking that perhaps the other spouse may have made the trip up to "catch-up" the interest---and POW!!!>>--->"They DEMANDED $7000 CASH on the day that we *were to pick them up."
and you must bear in mind that every time I "call my wifee"....it's a FELONY!! So I can't just "dial wifee" and get anything but threats and intimidation..believe me!!! I racked up 200+ counts of calls & texts--mainly during the week that I sold the backhoe...

...confused yet friends??

How's about just plain wore-out? :P

On top of all that...I still had the County Sheriff's Dept....chasin' my felonious butt all over the place!!!????

Vegas Pawn don't care.

They made free money!

At their customers expense and during EXTREME DURESS!!!!

And because they LIED on several KEY counts--"THE" key counts!
____________

nodo--YOU ARE A LIAR AND A THIEF!

"I" am the VICTIM.

"I" have been hurt and angered. BUT--

"I" am NOT going to go to Scottsdale, to "instruct" them on how to do their job. Let practices like this...and the "PLEASANT RUN" Chapter of the Residential Building Inspector caper that was caught and proven in 1978 speak for Scottsdale and continue victimizing it's citizens-----I believe it was said right here in this column: what goes around, comes around!

NODO, YOU CAN CRY: "GEE! GOLLY!" ALL DAY LONG AND STILL APPEAR TO OPERATE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE LAW.

BUT YOU KNOW AND I KNOW

THAT YOU DO NOT.

That's what "goin' around".
You want me to "come around"?
And "Prove it"?

WHEN AND WHERE,
I'LL BE THERE.

JUBI DUBI DUBI DUUU'
SHAME ON YOU

Phil Chesley
602-903-8151
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Apologies again to my beloved Forum Brother's and Sisters!

I've been through a lot....

Hey...
Dave??
Tim??
...did I MISS THE OPEN HOUSE??? 8)

[Faya]

Hey Monro'........

can i reach ya at that number too........???

i tried calling the other number and got nothing.

Just remember bro...............it'll all work out!!
"What comes around goes around"!!!!!

[PedroO]

Jube:
Are you planning in writing a novel with that experience? It could get your money back.
To give you some "you are not alone my friend" pet in the back. 99.99 perecent of wives do that when divorce happens, becuse sh___t happens.

[Jubilee Valence]

oh ya i forgot to mention that this person that claims the guitars as stolen has also braught some of his guitars in himself so its not like he doesn't know how the process works.
Say, man...Is you STUPID or somethin'???

If you want a real lesson....just keep typin'!!!!

You are "in MY WORLD"----cyber----and "music..."

and Arizona...

AND "YOU" ARE A LYING THIEF!

I know how "the process works..."[/i]

And...

...now I know how "YOUR PROCESS WORKS"

[Sandra]

"Gracci, 'paisan!!"

<snip>
Could someone maybe translate into English and provide some cliff notes? The "Jubi-speak" gives me a headache. :lol:

[Folio]

The purchaser of stolen property does not acquire good title to it, ever, as the seller did not have good title, to start with. The True Owner may reclaim it at any time, but within three (3) years of discovery of the stolen property’s whereabouts.
If you can prove Title to and of the Guitar (Sales receipt, Store records, Police reports) I will help you secure an attorney in Arizona, to reclaim your Guitar in Court.

GiacomoThank you Brother Member. I need to say right here and now to all that I'm PERSONALLY touched by your concerns. )

Sorry JV, we bounced his a** before you came back (for good?). Too bad, you would have liked him...real word smith. In the end his sensitivity was both his greatest strength and his greatest weakness....that and his love of adverbs. Some of the people on this forum couldn't appreciate that.

Glad to see you posting again....

[gjo]

I would like to suggest to calm down!

Here we have one person who is repeatedly pouring his trash and dirt over others and now he calls others a "liar" although he is obviously telling lies about his "stolen guitars" . Did anybody ask about the other side? Sad to loose all the guitars, but more sad to get divorced.

Hey, stop that - this is a "GUITAR FORUM" and not the place to wash all the dirty laundry of life.

[PedroO]

Uy!! Se encontro el hambre con la comida!!

[brian richardson]

gjo-
"he"is not lying.

[sausgirl]

gjo,
Always nice to have your opinion.
This IS a forum and thus being so, I think every person has the "right" to put down what they want or "need" to say.
Jubi is a friend to many in the GSI forum.
Being all that,this is his way of communication with us and since the Moderators
haven't stopped it, I think we all should be able to write what we want.
Other than being a First Ammendment right, in the American Constitution-(Freedom of Speech),
it is also, the right thing to do.
This being said, I will step down from my "soap box" with one last thing,
you have a choice to read, not read or comment if you wish-that is "your right".
"And now , back to our regularly scheduled program,already in progress."
Jan :?

[NoDo]

oh ya i forgot to mention that this person that claims the guitars as stolen has also braught some of his guitars in himself so its not like he doesn't know how the process works.
Say, man...Is you STUPID or somethin'???

If you want a real lesson....just keep typin'!!!!

You are "in MY WORLD"----cyber----and "music..."

and Arizona...

AND "YOU" ARE A LYING THIEF!

I know how "the process works..."[/i]

And...

...now I know how "YOUR PROCESS WORKS"


First of all you need to be careful how you speak to ppl. Just because we are one of the message forums that you hang out on doesn't mean a single thing to me so don't and be an internet tuff guy. We know that your not so stop "acting".
As for the date that your items came out of pawn, it was on a holiday and we extended it to the next day as we do with all items that "fall out" on holidays. However, the next day could have been a weekend or a Sunday. We are open 7 days a week so it would have been on that following business day for us. As a pawn shop we don't have to give a grace period. It's up to the business owner and IMO it is a huge hassle to give them. If you need the money then get a job and don't over extend yourself to where you can't pay your bills.
We are a big part of the community in Scottsdale and we are here to help people. We clearly inform all of our customers that we have no grace period and the state requires that the person that pawns the item is the only one that can redem the item. State law, end of story there.

Now, your the one that is a thief and a liar. You continue to say that your guitars were stolen. So stolen that you knew where they were and how to get them back but you refused to do. Come on give me a break and grow up.
Oh by the way your ex wifeee was here last night pawning again.

STOP SIGNING IT AND ****N BRING IT BITCH!!!

[Dave Tate]

Not the place for this discussion. Closed.

Dave