guitars and wives

[keith]

seeing what was printed in the last post with respect to jubi's thread about his guitar i suspect that thread will be closed pretty soon so i decided to throw my 2 cents into this in a new thread. i am not a lawyer so i cannot make any conclusions about the legailty of the issue but it seems, at least on the surface, that the pawn shop has the law on their side. this, however, is not a statement condoning pawn shops, but, the law is the law and sometimes the law sucks.

not knowing, nor should i know, the events that led the guitars to the pawn shop, i would say, in all fairness, that either jubi did not deserve the consequences of his wife's action or he did deserve the consequences. this, ultimately, is something between jubi and his wife. i would hope that jubi and his wife can resolve this in such a way that makes sense for both of them.

jubi, if there is anything left that can help you and your wife resolve this so both of you are happy then i would say to put the effort into it. guitars come and go but love is so much more important.--heck, a guitar can be built in days but love takes so much more time but once it is built it can, or should, tolerate a lot and remain strong. trying saying that about a guitar and say, low humidity or the accident dropping onto the floor. if the relationship cannot be resolved then i hope you are able to get your guitars back.

[PedroO]

I would say, a person who cannot control his/her spouse should not get married. Good spouses are hard to find, so are good guitars. One for one, I prefer my Ramirez. :wink:

OK, Sandy go ahead, shoot my head off!! :cry:

[Sandra]

I would say, a person who cannot control his/her spouse should not get married. Good spouses are hard to find, so are good guitars. One for one, I prefer my Ramirez. :wink:

OK, Sandy go ahead, shoot my head off!! :cry:
Are you talking to me? Because nobody calls me Sandy except my mom. ;)

It's not about control; it's about mutual respect. If you don't have that, you don't have a good marriage to begin with. My husband has his "toys" and hobbies and I have mine. We try to support and encourage each other in our separate interests.

keith, from what Jubi said elsewhere, his marriage sounds like it is beyond any possibility of being salvaged. If he isn't allowed to even call her, it sounds like she has a restraining order against him. Sometimes you just have to cut your losses and get out of a bad situation and get on with your life. :(

[iberianwolf]

According to one of Jubi's all too familiar rambling, convoluted "Jubi-grams" in one of the now-locked threads, the guitars were pawned with his knowledge and consent. At least that's what I think he said. Whatever happened between that time and the due date for paying off the loan and retrieving them is just heresay but is apparently a problem between Mr. and Mrs. Jubi and not with the pawnbroker.

It would be interesting to hear (though preferably on another forum) Mrs. Jubi's side of the story. On second thought, maybe not.

[Pepe Vergara]

I would suggest we drop the names and concentrate on a generic situation, which I am sure some have gone through. I believe that was Keith's intent.

A friend of mine in Southern California ordered a guitar from me. When it was ready, he told me not to send it, but that he will pick it up. He paid me cash and brought an empty case. He wanted to give the impression to his wife that he just got out of the house with the guitar and came back with it. BTW, he already has seven guitars (two of them purchased at GSI :wink: )

The strange thing is that this person is well-off economically speaking and retired. However, it seems that in many cases guitar practicing can intefere with going to the movies or dinning out.

[brian richardson]

stay single

[sausgirl]

Hello,
I agree with Pepe.
All I know is...after a conversation with my husband of 32 years,
he wouldn't take my instruments and do that and I wouldn't take his valuable
things and sell them either.
It is a sign of respect.
Someone didn't have that within them,unfortunately.
Jan :?

[Sandra]

The truth is that money is one of the biggest bones of contention in any relationship... who gets to spend how much and on what.

If you have a mortgage and kids, those will dictate much of your finances.

My husband and I share a philosophy of not spending what we can't afford. If that means saving up to be able to buy something we want (but really don't need), that is what we do. We use credit cards for convenience only and pay them off every month. If we had to put an unexpected car repair on the card, we'll dip into our savings to pay it off because the interest on a cc is way more than what you earn from a savings acct.

Unfortunately, many people these days spend beyond their means and end up in financial trouble.

Pepe, the story about your client was both funny and sad. Funny that he would go to such lengths to hide his new guitar from his wife (instead of being able to share his joy over it with her) and sad that he felt he had to do that because he likely feared her wrath over its acquisition.

And sausgirl, congrats on 32 years of marriage! Our 18th anniversary is only a couple weeks away. It hasn't always been "wedded bliss" but we do respect each other and do our best to work out any issues.

[sausgirl]

Hey Sandra!
Happy 18th anniversary.
Amen sister!Every marriage definately has it's ups and downs.
I think communication and respect are keys to a successful one.
See ya around,
Jan :wink:

[Chalcol]

I understand Pepe's friends tactics, because believe me when you already own 10 guitars you start to get furtive with each new one thereafter, not because my girlfriend really minds or it's a money thing, it's just that 'you love them more than me' issue you have to deal with, just understandably jealous of the attention I guess.

God bless all girls and all guitars (Bellucci excepted).

[Jubilee Valence]

I would say, a person who cannot control his/her spouse should not get married. Good spouses are hard to find, so are good guitars. One for one, I prefer my Ramirez. :wink:

OK, Sandy go ahead, shoot my head off!! :cry:

...ah-h-hemmmm!!!!


Remember folks, we was together for like TWENTY TWO YEARS... and then I decided ta' make her an....honest....woman....

ok ok ok, sorry for the oxyMORON.... :lol: :lol: :lol:

And....when all's said & done....

Heck, I'm a businessman....I had a pretty-much (sorry for the "Val.." ;) ) profitable business for about ten years.....except for a few losses...

So...I can't write it off like a loss;

But I can blow it off like a waste... :shock:

But everybody's right;

Even my "wife'ee" ;)

But with ANY shop etc......be careful....

We BOTH tried to get them back, Veronica who owns the Airport was to pick them up for Leslie, and I had about 12K in cash on me from selling the backhoe, but this guy lied to both of us on ALL the key elements regarding renewals and contracts and prices etc etc and even stalled the pick-up date by one day, and so it then fell under the "unfortunately" unproveable realm of: "he says-she says"..

Bottom line:

We had "other problems" to be concerned with..

REAL problems!! ;)

Just beware of liars and thieves and at least keep it in your minds that they're out there.

...and uh, Pete'y....a Ramirez?--don't let Leslie anywhere's near it!! She smacked mine with a blue softball bat!!! OUCH!!!

Jubidubiduuu' 8)

[ivo_ge]

http://classicalguitar.sagabg.net/index.php/eng/guitar_history

[brian richardson]

here's a hunk-o garlic
in yer face ivo_ge :twisted:

[Dinosaur SR]

Man,never thought I would see a thread like THIS one in
here.Just celebrated the 30th anniversary to the same lady
this past spring.All these divorce issues fall under one or more
of three categories-sex,money,or control.I feel sorry for Jubi that
he lost his guitars.And for the poor sap that has to sneak around
with cash and an empty guitar case I am doubly sorry.The good news
for me is that there's other addicts out there that have more instruments
than they can play.There is a certain joy one gets from owning something
of such incredible beauty and the spouses should take some comfort
in the fact that the other party is not pursuing extramarital "interests"
and that they are devoting time,money,and effort to making real
music and expanding their personal horizons in such a constructive
way.Just my two cents.BTW,Jubi,you could borrow the money and buy
back from the pawn shop couldn't you?
Dinosaur SR