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spanishyturk
08-04-2007, 04:11 AM
What is the best way to take apart a guitar without causing distortion to the dimentions of the wood.
I found a Ramirez 1a for $4000,I am going to butcher it to further my building skills. Yes I do have guitar plans but it is not the same as holding the pieces in your hand and getting a feel for it.
Dont worry I will put it back together,honest.

JoeAlders
08-04-2007, 06:02 AM
What…..?????!!!!!!!!

Possessing a $4000 Ramirez 1a and then ‘dismantle’ it??????
I first took a tranquilizer before I could respond
on this post (I still have trembling hands).
I will pray to God that He gives you His blessing when you start
doing that.

Joe.

sanderdude
08-04-2007, 09:15 AM
Can you get these in Hhttp://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i223/rubjohnson/tylertool_1956_263957006.jpgolland? The cordless is handy.

Sasquatch51
08-04-2007, 10:56 AM
Nobody is that stupid. He's just yanking our chain. :rolleyes:

Pepe Vergara
08-04-2007, 05:42 PM
Maybe not!! I do buy nice guitars to study them, once I know them well, I sell them. There are many ways to study the guitar without butchering it or dismantling it. Removing the back, which is probably the first thing to remove when opening a guitar will show you enough of what you want to know. Gluing it back is going to require some fine surgery when placing the binding. In this case, my feeling is that someone is trying to pull our legs. :)

thedrizzle
08-05-2007, 12:50 AM
when you are done I can send you my dog so you can practice your veterenarian skills while you are at it, may god have mercy on your soul

brian richardson
08-06-2007, 11:14 AM
hey spanishyturk-

it's just sounds oh so rock n roll!!!
all that dismantling talk.

if it does go down, send/post some pics??
would love to see the inside.

JoeAlders
08-06-2007, 12:15 PM
Hello Brian and Pepe,

Do you agree with me the use of that ‘dismantling’ expression?

Pepe said : ….’ There are many ways to study the guitar without butchering it or dismantling it’

and

‘…..Glueing it back is going to require some fine surgery when placing the binding…..’

But does this not mean that there is the possibility that something is lost during that ‘restoring’ procedure (the kind of glue they were using at the time when the guitar was fabricated, a ‘trade secret’ in order to obtain a ‘better tone’)?

My opinion is that, before you are ‘dismantling’ such a delicate piece of art, there must be recorded a frequency analyses response of the original.
So that after the ‘reconstruction”, there can be some kind of comparison between the original and the ‘dismantling’ version.

Joe

Sasquatch51
08-06-2007, 12:41 PM
My opinion is that, before you are ‘dismantling’ such a delicate piece of art, there must be recorded a frequency analyses response of the original.


My opinion is that the only frequency analysis necessary for someone that would "dismantle" a perfectly good Ramirez 1a would be in the form of an EEG. They obviously have markedly decreased brain activity.

brian richardson
08-06-2007, 01:20 PM
joe-
dismantle could mean to take apart with or without
putting it back together.
butchering something is simply taking it apart
without any care about how or if it can be put back together.
you are right, there should be a before and after.
how to go about that, i've no clue.
butcher(metzger) (SP??) cuts up the animal and
has no intention of putting it back together:twisted:.
the animal was butchered. dismantling implies that care
is being taken to put it back to it's original condition.

sas-
was it a tom waites song???
"who in the world do they think they are,
smashing/braking a perfectly good guitar?":confused:

Sasquatch51
08-06-2007, 03:28 PM
sas-
was it a tom waites song???
"who in the world do they think they are,
smashing/braking a perfectly good guitar?":confused:

John Hiatt. The title cut from the Perfectly Good Guitar album.

brian richardson
08-06-2007, 06:55 PM
John Hiatt. The title cut from the Perfectly Good Guitar album.


waites----haitt, was close heh???
thanks Sas. i've always liked that song and
it came to mind right away with this post