Show off your headstock/rosette!

[Sandra]

In response to Pepe's thread about the lack of activity here lately, I thought I'd start a thread most everyone can contribute to. We all have guitars, and most of us have digicams, even if mine's 10 years old and pretty crappy. :p

Here's my 1993 Philip Woodfield that I bought ("pre-owned" by Fareed Haque (http://www.fareed.com/)) from GSI. I really like the maple "blaze" on the headstock. :cool:

[Sandra]

And here's my 1990 Benito Huipe. Oh, noes! I haven't played it in a couple weeks and opened the case to a popped D string, the bane of my existence! Looks like I've got some string changing to do. :(

The trebles look rather dark in this pic, but they are Hannabach Goldins. The headstock always reminds me of devil's horns for some reason.

[brian richardson]

not my guitar but, same model

http://www.guitarsalon.com/upload/4649_concierto_rosette.jpg

[thraex]

In response to Pepe's thread about the lack of activity here lately, I thought I'd start a thread most everyone can contribute to. We all have guitars, and most of us have digicams, even if mine's 10 years old and pretty crappy. :p

Here's my 1993 Philip Woodfield that I bought ("pre-owned" by Fareed Haque (http://www.fareed.com/)) from GSI. I really like the maple "blaze" on the headstock. :cool:

Fareed Haque's ex! heheh
Nice guitar, Sandra! According to my teacher, Fareed is the best all round guitarist there is...I am not into non classical music, but he is a wise man, I give him that.
I'll take pics of my girls later and post them..

[thraex]

my 2001 Brahms guitar

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e388/thraex41/Guitarras/DSC00349.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e388/thraex41/Guitarras/DSC00351.jpg


my 2006 Picasso guitar

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e388/thraex41/Guitarras/DSC00347.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e388/thraex41/Guitarras/DSC00352.jpg

[Great Googly Moogly]

Thraex, I'm jealous of that 20th fret. Beautiful.

[thraex]

Thraex, I'm jealous of that 20th fret. Beautiful.
Actually, they are 24 frets!
:D

[classicalguitar83]

This is my custom made Candelas Guitar (2005)

[JoeAlders]

Hello thraex,

Those 2006 Picasso ‘rosettes’….. In my opinion it is not ‘a rosette’. It remembers me
on a Pablo Picasso painting: ‘Demoiselles d’Avignon’… those women
with their strange positioned eyes staring at you.
What is the (acoustical)purpose of that little second soundhole?

Joe.

[brian richardson]

classicalguitar83-
how do you like your ameritage case?
cool guitar, was that custom made for you??
i think i see your name on the label??

[classicalguitar83]

classicalguitar83-
how do you like your ameritage case?
cool guitar, was that custom made for you??
i think i see your name on the label??

Yes, that guitar was custom made for me and yes that is my name on the label "custom made for Roman Coronado".

I love my Ameritage case, very protective. It's a heavy beast but after carrying that case everywhere for 3, almost 4 years now, you don't really feel it as much. The interior is the most protective I've ever seen in a case (you can't tell from this pic but the rest of it is very cushioned). I have thought about buying me one of those light weight Humi-cases or Accord cases just to carry my guitar from home to school/lessons but I've gotten so use to the protection that Ameritage gives me that I'm almost afraid to stick my guitar in anything else...not that I bang around my instrument of anything like that, but you never know when a door is going to quickly close on your case. The only thing I don't like about my case is that it doesn't come with a carrying strap to put around your shoulder (that's why I want one of the cases I mentioned above...though Accord is awfully expensive).

[brian richardson]

classicalguitar83-
thanks for the review of the case!
much appreciated!

[thedrizzle]

This isn't my exact guitar but it is pretty close to the one I have. It was built by John Peter Barthell in Washington. These photos are from his website.

[thraex]

Hello thraex,

Those 2006 Picasso ‘rosettes’….. In my opinion it is not ‘a rosette’. It remembers me
on a Pablo Picasso painting: ‘Demoiselles d’Avignon’… those women
with their strange positioned eyes staring at you.
What is the (acoustical)purpose of that little second soundhole?

Joe.

hoi Joe!
I know that painting but I think the "jokeful" name Galbraith actually gave to my guitar has more to do with the series of paintings "Guitare" by Picasso.

I don't have really precise idea over the concept of 2 soundholes, really,I asked Martin, but he is the most difficult (extremely quiet and shy) luthier to talk to, so basically I don't know. But it must have to do to keep the balance in air flow in the soundbox, together with the tonal characteristics I demanded the guitar with, which I wanted a heavier or fuller sounding high a' string, and old school basses. The body is smaller, not sure if like a Torres, but I think he mentioned Torres. I wanted a stiffer top, also.
So all in all he did his calculations and came up with this design, after all he is very scientifically based, his dad is one of the top acoustical music instrument scientists (specialized in researching Stradivari) in the world.

[nitz]

From my Richard Prenkert guitar.

[mmanners]

My 2006 Robert and Orville Milburn redwood/African blackwood.

[Great Googly Moogly]

Actually, they are 24 frets!
:D24 frets? Holy schnikeys.

[cgram@adelphia.net]

Thraex - you have a guitar with, is it 8 strings? and 24 frets? i'm nowhere near as well versed in the repertoire as you are, but is that 24th fret of the high a string ever called for? just wondering. and what's the total range of your instrument?

[brian richardson]

My 2006 Robert and Orville Milburn redwood/African blackwood.

mmanners-
check your PM.
i've a question regarding your Milburn guitar:D

[Mister Lovaguitara]

Nice guitars! here is my 2007 Joshua French Spruce\Indian Rosewood, I love this guitar! she is an absolute beauty. honestly I can't belive I have such an instrument in my hands, she really is great.

http://aycu25.webshots.com/image/31264/2005841548105885564_rs.jpg

http://aycu02.webshots.com/image/31121/2005834441091672361_rs.jpg

[cgram@adelphia.net]

hey Mr. LG, that is a beautiful guitar. If it's not too much trouble, could you include a picture of the whole top? I'd like to see how big the soundhole is in proportion to the rest of the body. If not, no biggie. Thanks dude.

[sanderdude]

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i223/rubjohnson/august050.jpghttp://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i223/rubjohnson/august067-1.jpg
My 07 classical. Finished in August. Sounding better every day!

[brian richardson]

sanderdude-

you are one talented fellow.
amazing it's your first guitar!!!
i love that rosette design.
any chance of a sound sample??
to play a guitar you've built...must be bliss!!

[sanderdude]

Hi Brian: I can't say enough good about my teacher Brian Burns. He approaches lutheiry from an engineering background. I came very close to buying a guitar before deciding to build one with him. My big question was how can one expect to build a great 1st guitar. He believes it is all about selecting and testing the materials for the best quality and then following a proven design and doing top notch work-then you have a good chance of getting a good guitar. So far, I have a 100% success rate. If my 2nd guitar is a dog well then I will have a 50% sucess rate! Sound sample as soon as I can find a good player to record something on it. Not me yet.

[thraex]

Thraex - you have a guitar with, is it 8 strings? and 24 frets? i'm nowhere near as well versed in the repertoire as you are, but is that 24th fret of the high a string ever called for? just wondering. and what's the total range of your instrument?

-The 24th fret: on the a' string, not, still have not used it.
-a' string: all the time, that is the real superior feature of my guitar.
-Range: my low string can be AA (1 octave below the 5th "A" string, BB or C) and the highest note is a g'' on the 24th fret "0" string.
-Like comparing a modern piano, it just has more possibilities than a fortepiano from Mozart's time. But you don't need to use all notes of the instrument to justify it, that is how I take it.

[Faya]

sanderdude..............i really love that simple ring design!!!
Looks cool......:cool:

[cgram@adelphia.net]

Thraex, I'd love to hear you play it sometime. Do you use the Paul Galbraith position? How does that affect tone? I've never heard galbraith play.

[JoeAlders]

‘What is wrong with this forum?’

Reading this thread : NOTHING IS WRONG WITH THIS FORUM !!

Joe.

[Faya]

‘What is wrong with this forum?’

Reading this thread : NOTHING IS WRONG WITH THIS FORUM !!

Joe.

the only thing that i don't like is the Spam............but other than that i agree!

it just seems people are getting all worked up about all different kinds of things these days???.............i personally wouldn't change a thing about this forum other than some sort of "Spam Blocker".......:lol:

[Mister Lovaguitara]

Hi cgram, thank for the complement! I have pic taken at a friends house, my hand is a bit in the way, but I hope this helps. you can also check out his site for more pics at www.frenchguitars.com.

http://aycu08.webshots.com/image/28767/2003585297534045977_rs.jpg

saderdude that is one beautiful guitar! amazing for your first time. I love your rosette and the finish looks great as well - is that french polish?

[brian richardson]

:cry:enjoy it you crazy muther!!!:arrow:

manzanero anyone???:twisted:

[brian richardson]

i don't have the foggiest idea...........

[sanderdude]

For Mr. Lovaguitarra: Thanks, and yes it is french polish and all built with hide glue. My teacher says you can eat the glue and drink the finish! Hi Faya, speaking of rosettes, I think your Perez flamenco has a really awesome one. I am going to start a Santos flamenco copy soon along with a couple more classicals. The flamenco for me and the other 2 for sale. By the way, my rosette was inspired by a Manzanero one, of which Manzanero said he was inspired by the really old timey Spanish ones.

[cgram@adelphia.net]

Mr. Lova: I see now why I was confused. Just seeing the soundhole and the rosette, I thought the soundhole was very small in proportion to the top. It seems it is normally proportioned, with an oversized, and very nice, rosette. What kind of bracing does your instrument have?

[Faya]

Hi sanderdude............i'd really like to see that Santos flamenco you're going to build!!.................man, it must be great to build your own guitars!

Thanks man!:cool:

[sanderdude]

Hi Faya: Thanks for the interest. It will be a while. I intend to build 3 guitars at the same time and won't be starting them till late next month. I have quite a lot of wood testing to finish with Brian before I can decide on exactly what wood I will be using for the 3. I will keep you posted with some pics too.
Here is a shot of me in the plaid shirt with Diego Del Gastor. I plan to use it for a label for flamenco guitars I make!




http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i223/rubjohnson/dme30.jpg

[Mister Lovaguitara]

cgram: lol... yeah looking at the picture I can see why you thought that. the Rosette is actually Torres oriented, and it doesn't look as big in real life. in fact it is actually one of the nicest and more "comment attractive" ones I have seen. kids like it, so that's gotta say something! as for the bracing it is a little unique because of the tornavoz, but it has a very light 7 fan with a close harmonic bar. the body is pure Romanillos and the sound is very similar as well, in fact I prefer mine to a original Romanillos I played, I has something extra and the sound seems to be more boldly pronounced, maybe because of the tornavoz, anyways, I love it(-:

sanderdude: I think that it is great you are starting to build guitars, you have a great talent how? if you don't mind me asking, much do you think you would be asking for the first ones?

[sanderdude]

Hi Mr. Lovaguitarra: I have always had a great love for the classical guitar and flamenco also. I've been building custom furniture and working in cabinet shops as a "sander dude" , and resawing wood for luthiers in my own shop for many years. I'm sure that has helped ready me for building guitars. As for pricing my guitars, I think I need to be very mindful that this is not the place for me to be engaging in self promotion. Having said that, I will say that they will be in the neighborhood of 3k.

[Mister Lovaguitara]

Hi sanderdude, that "how" slipped as I was actually just saying that you are very talented, but I'm glad it slipped because it is nice to know where you are coming from. I'm sure that the wood working experiance would have helped you a great deal.... I have a friend how been building furniture for a while and recently just built his first guitar (an acoustic) and it turned out beautiful! just like yours. please do keep us updated, I'm sure all of us here would love to see your progress, right guys?(:

[Faya]

Hey sanderdude!............nice picture man!
very cool..................well, make sure you let everyone know when that Santos flamenco is done!
i think you have a real gift for luthierie................:cool:

Your a "natural" at it man!!!.............and you seem like a real down to earth and nice guy ta boot............which will make your efforts all the more rewarding!
i really appriciate you coming here and sharing this with us!;):cool:

[brian richardson]

sanderdude-

that's a cool picture.
i thought that was bream in the plaid shirt
until i read it was you!!LOL

i thank you as well for
sharing all this with us.
EXCELLENT!!!!

[cglover]

My new work horse. The Pavan TP-20 I was talkin about in the other thread.

[nylon6]

Here's my 7-string Byers' headstock

[Mister Lovaguitara]

Nice headstock nylon6! I like the decorative middle, and the tuners look great as well. what is that idea behind elevating the 7th string rather then simply making the head stock a little wider?

[nylon6]

Nice headstock nylon6! I like the decorative middle, and the tuners look great as well. what is that idea behind elevating the 7th string rather then simply making the head stock a little wider?

It provides two more frets for one thing! I rarely use them...it usually calls for some insanely wide stretches to use them. I think it also increases the string tension for greater clarity. I use a D'Addario .056 string for the 7th and normally tune it to an A or B. As you can see, it uses a sliding capo system to change the pitch and tension. For instance, if I tune the open string to an A and stop it at the upper end of the elevated fret, then I have a high tension A. If I tune to G and stop it right behind the nut, I get a low tension A, which is my most common tuning. Within limits, it offers quite a range of pitches without having to re-tune (I can stop notes on that string up to the 4th fret).

[nylon6]

For some reason, I could add only two attachments, so here is the rosette.

http://johnoster.net/byers_rose7_5.jpg

[classicalguitar83]

thraex,

I noticed on your avatar that your guitar has the tail spike. I've always wondered how this changes things for the guitarist. From your perspective, what are the advantages/disadvantages of performing the guitar upright as opposed to playing it in the traditional fashion. Since I've never played like that I automatically think about how awkward that makes the position of the right hand (rest strokes, pizzicato, tremelo, rasgueados, etc). How long have you played in that position? What brought you to the decision to use that position?

[Todd]

Loving the sound of maple back/sides these days.:)

an audio sample of the guitar here.
http://michaelk101.com/todd/toddmp3/legnani7.mp3

[JoeAlders]

Hello nylon6,

I am wondering why you are tuning this 7th string to an A
in stead of tuning it down to D (a whole step lower than the 6th string E).

Joe.

[thraex]

Hello nylon6,

I am wondering why you are tuning this 7th string to an A
in stead of tuning it down to D (a whole step lower than the 6th string E).

Joe.

Joe,
you did not ask me, but i will answer, anyway ;)
Depending on a piece's tonality the extra bass is customary to be tuned in AA, BB or even C, that is what allows a larger range and facilitates playing of many transcriptions or original 7-8 string guitars's music.
Tuning down to D as you suggest is only called in some specific music, but having an extra string just for one more note is pretty poor in my view, in fact is a waste!

Nylon6: why can you only stop the lowest string until the 4th fret??? :confused:
I fret my 8 strings all over, if not, I would find it a limited option of an instrument..

[symodiezel]

That was great Todd, awesome sound also.

[nylon6]

Thraex: I mean the capo only stops the 7th string up to the 4th fret, which establishes the open string pitch...of course I can stop it with my fingers beyond that point!

[JoeAlders]

Hello thaex,

Thanks for the explanation!

Hello Todd,

Listened to your Legnani piece. What a very nice tone production and
brilliant LH technique!!
The sound of the guitar is very bright (to my ears of course).
Is it possible to post a Bach piece played with this guitar? For instance
a part of one of his Luite Suites?

Joe.

[Todd]

Hello thaex,

Thanks for the explanation!

Hello Todd,

Listened to your Legnani piece. What a very nice tone production and
brilliant LH technique!!
The sound of the guitar is very bright (to my ears of course).
Is it possible to post a Bach piece played with this guitar? For instance
a part of one of his Luite Suites?

Joe.

All i have at the moment is the bouree from 1006a @ Youtube.
Here it is = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUFahFXsMDA

It sounds a little more full bodied in this clip. I love the guitar very
much. Im officially converted to maple now. :)
TK

[Todd]

While im at it, here's my version of Serenata Espanola, using the Angela
guitar.
http://michaelk101.com/todd/toddmp3/Serenata.mp3

Not the greatest recording, cause i had the mics a bit too far away.
It sounds a bit cloudy in the low mids, but you get an idea of the
responsiveness of the guitar, as well as the creaminess of the trebles.

TK

[Dave Tate]

Todd,

You are TEARING IT UP on that Strat! Nice stuff...

Dave

[Mister Lovaguitara]

Todd, great playing as usual man! as I've always said before I think you could really push forward to concert stage level if you wanted to.

Dave, just an idea, maybe one of Todd's recording could be put on this site next to the Angela. personally I wouldn't have expected such quality from these guitars, and as I see thay are "on sale" it might help a bit with the selling (-;
all this if Todd doesn't mind of chorus - just throwing an idea out.

[thraex]

thraex,

I noticed on your avatar that your guitar has the tail spike. I've always wondered how this changes things for the guitarist. From your perspective, what are the advantages/disadvantages of performing the guitar upright as opposed to playing it in the traditional fashion. Since I've never played like that I automatically think about how awkward that makes the position of the right hand (rest strokes, pizzicato, tremelo, rasgueados, etc). How long have you played in that position? What brought you to the decision to use that position?

Apologies for taking long to reply to your question.
Advantages:
-freeing both arms from accumulated tension.
-Just by the Left Arm position, I noticed the extensions are much improved.
-RH: it is the main advantage, because if like me, you are focused in finding a specific sound coming from your internal sound conception, you have it more flexible.
-Really, for the RH there is no real difference in position, come to think of it, I have the same even if I play in normal position.
-Sound flows more freely from the soundbox because there is less body contact.

Disadvantages:
-a bit more gear and preocupation in finding the right position if you don't carry your own chair (I used to, but no longer)
-on one of my guitars, chords are really difficult, but not so much because of the position, I think, bût a lot to do with the design (fan frets, no radiused fretboard like the newer one, and I have to have the action lowered back, also)

I have played like this since exactly 4 years ago, I bought my 2001 guitar from Galbraith, and since it already had the hole, I bought a cello spike that I liked (i used to play cello, also) and began experimenting. Admiring Galbraith's work helped a lot, obviously.
But we are different, anyway, there are no 2 Brahms players with the same position, Everton Gloeden even invented an artifact instead of using the spike, for example.
Even last week I began experimenting to some different positioning or angling, so it is an ongoing challenge and discovery. Also, I have analized other Brahms playing pictures from the years, and there is a clear evolution.
That is a great thing instead of playing in the traditional way, we are always pushing our boundaries and also the music on the guitar. Which is no small thing...

[Dave Tate]

Dave, just an idea, maybe one of Todd's recording could be put on this site next to the Angela. personally I wouldn't have expected such quality from these guitars, and as I see thay are "on sale" it might help a bit with the selling (-;
all this if Todd doesn't mind of chorus - just throwing an idea out.

Yes, that's a great idea. I believe Todd and I spoke of this in the past, and I'm guessing he wouldn't be opposed to the idea.

Coincidentally, I'm currently recording and compiling sound samples of many different guitars. You can expect to start seeing many more shortly.

Cheers,
Dave

[Mister Lovaguitara]

Sweet! (-:

[campbell]

My 1972 Manuel Contreras, a recent acquisition.

[JoeAlders]

Hello Todd,

While enjoying your Bouree I suddenly noticed that you are using a plectrum
isn’t it?

Joe.

[Todd]

Hello Todd,

While enjoying your Bouree I suddenly noticed that you are using a plectrum
isn’t it?

Joe.

Nope, its just your imagination. Nobody can play polyphonic Bach pieces
with a plectrum. That is utter poppycock... :)

So anyway, the guitar sounds pretty good right?

TK

[Mister Lovaguitara]

LOL yeah yeah the guitar sounds awesome!

so.... what pic to you use?(-:

[nylon6]

Thraex, here's a better picture of my Byers 7-string guitar so you can more clearly see the capo system:

http://www.johnoster.net/byers_head7_full.jpg

It now has Rodgers tuners...

[JoeAlders]

Nope, its just your imagination. Nobody can play polyphonic Bach pieces
with a plectrum. That is utter poppycock... :)

So anyway, the guitar sounds pretty good right?

TK

Hello Todd,

Amazing! Your 'i' looks (at least to my eyes) as if it is glued to your 'p'!
And yes, the guitar sounds pretty good!!!

Joe.

[thraex]

Hello Todd,

Amazing! Your 'i' looks (at least to my eyes) as if it is glued to your 'p'!
And yes, the guitar sounds pretty good!!!

Joe.

;)
Ohh JoeAlders! by your questions and many replies I gather you are the most naive person in this forum.:D

hint: sarcasm, irony..

Cheers

[thraex]

Thank you for the latest picture, now I can see everything, it is a clever design! probably in that most experimenting period of the guitar (1800's) they did things like that. Good solution.

[JoeAlders]

;)
Ohh JoeAlders! by your questions and many replies I gather you are the most naive person in this forum.:D

hint: sarcasm, irony..

Cheers

Hello thraex,

Is that so? Well, perhaps I should stop responding to threads in this forum.

Joe.

[Mister Lovaguitara]

ohhhh come on... Todd was jokinh - you didn't get it - so what? it happens... no need to read that much into it.

[cgram@adelphia.net]

I think most everybody else on the forum has encountered an explanation somewhere or another of Todd's unique playing style. If Joe hadn't, then it makes sense he would be confused. No biggie.

[Great Googly Moogly]

Hey Joe,

I think there was a misunderstanding. Todd saying that "nobody can play polyphonic Bach pieces with a plectrum" was just his way of making it sound all the more amazing, is the way I took it. I don't know if this technically falls under "sarcasm" or "irony" but it's something along that line. I can definitely see how this could be misleading, though, especially since you were unaware that Todd uses a plectrum. I think Threax was merely trying to draw your attention to Todd's use of "irony".

[JoeAlders]

Thanks, Cgram and Locust777,
No I was completely unaware of Todd’s way of playing, even after more than 377
posts on this forum.
If this is thraex’s way of drawing somebody’s attention at Todd’s use of ‘irony’
well……… pfffffff….. not mine anyway.

Joe.

[JoeAlders]

ohhhh come on... Todd was jokinh - you didn't get it - so what? it happens... no need to read that much into it.

Hello Mister Lovaguitara,

Yes, you were also right! I was forgotten to mention you in my
previous response.

Joe.

[brian richardson]

the 'new' gal.....
this one isn't an actual pic of mine but,
mines the same model, year, rosette, .........................

http://www.zavaletas-guitarras.com/files/00manzcrz.jpg

[thedrizzle]

Todd, this is kind of off the subject but, do you get much flak from the CG/Flamenco world for your use of a pick. Sorry if this has been discussed before, just curious. Your tone and technique are great but I know how people can be about tradition.

[Todd]

Todd, this is kind of off the subject but, do you get much flak from the CG/Flamenco world for your use of a pick. Sorry if this has been discussed before, just curious. Your tone and technique are great but I know how people can be about tradition.


Oh my goodness, you dont even want to know!! LOL :)

Yes, ive gotten a ton of flack. Tons and tons, trust me. :)

However, i do end up winning most of them over somehow.

At first, its the Eyes that make them go "Hey, wait a minute, you're not
supposed to do that".
But soon the Ears kick in, and they start to realize, when they just listen,
without looking, the sound is very authentic, and really, no different.
The difference is only in the technique. The ends are the same.
TK

[brian richardson]

talking about thread hijacking................:lol: (remember?? e-mails?)
but, since we're off anyway, for kicks, todd at a segovia masterclass?
i think segovia would have exploded into a million pieces or
he'd have tried to burn todd at the stake!!!:lol:

oooooooo!! post #1666:twisted:

[Todd]

talking about thread hijacking................:lol: (remember?? e-mails?)
but, since we're off anyway, for kicks, todd at a segovia masterclass?
i think segovia would have exploded into a million pieces or
he'd have tried to burn todd at the stake!!!:lol:

oooooooo!! post #1666:twisted:


Which would have made one of the best Youtube vids of all time,
dont ya think??? LOL

Sincerely sorry to get off the subject of this thread.
i get pretty pissed when my threads get hijacked.. grrrrr...:(
TK

[thedrizzle]

Segovia would have ACTUALLY burned Todd at the stake. Sorry, I know its hi-jacking, I couldn't help it.

[brian richardson]

hey boys,
just kidding really!
i'm the king of thread hijacking and am really
making an effort to be more sympathetic
to the thread starter (i did say 'trying'):cool:,
with my posts, it just happens sometimes and well............

i'm also trying to turn a new leaf with everyone
and not be on the 'attack' with some members as i've
been in the past (be it justified or not), it's just bad form on my part.

but, what a great youtube skit that master class would make.
it's too late but, benny hill as segovia, todd as todd and
the rest of us as the 'others'. some collecting wood
and others collecting water!! you know the cartoons when the
person gets so angry their head just gets bigger and bigger till it pops??
man benny hill would have pulled that off!! i can picture the skit right now!!
too funny.

[cgram@adelphia.net]

Here's a couple pics of my '03 cedar brazilian rafael moreno rodriguez. great guitar.

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/88rosette88/IMG_0510.jpg

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/88rosette88/P2220078.jpg

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/88rosette88/P2220084.jpg

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/88rosette88/P2220082.jpg

[Mister Lovaguitara]

Nice guitar cgram! poor photography skills(; his instrument are some that interest me the most.

[cgram@adelphia.net]

Yeah I think the top one came out okay, other than that.... but thanks for the compliment, I love the guitar. Simple and unadorned, but still remarkable.

[TxClassPlayer]

(If I did this right!!!) here are pictures of my Ramirez

[TxClassPlayer]

Since so many seem interested in the deCamara I tried to get pictures of it...not very good...but visible. Also pictures of the back and side wood.